This is not a rape.

25 May

 

Monsters under the bed

Monsters under the bed

The representation and simulation of rape has existed in many cultures, from the time humans first learned to make art. Sadly, none of these thousands of years of representation and simulation have done anything at all to prevent sexual assault.

So it is with some cynicism that I read artist Sophia Hewson’s explanation of her latest work as an attempt to bring the rape of women to our attention in the hope of subverting patriarchal notions of female victimisation and self-sacrifice, thus turning the trauma of rape into the liberation of empowerment.

While it is true that a raped woman need not remain forever a victim, and that the recovery of empowerment post trauma is indeed a real possibility, I’m at a loss as to how a video of a simulated “rape” scene will in any way assist the difficult progression from victim to empowered survivor.

Titled Untitled (“are you ok bob?”), the work is a video Hewson “arranged and choreographed” featuring herself and a male stranger she invited to her home to “rape” her on camera.

Immediately we note the absence of rape criteria: this is a pre-arranged consensual act, not a sexual assault.

All that is seen of the “perpetrator” are his hands and arms: the camera remains focused on Hewson’s face throughout the act. In itself this focus is, according to Hewson, a transgressive act: raped women are frequently depicted with eyes downcast, in what is presumed to be avoidance, and learned shame. (It is also an effort to protect oneself from being further violated by the gaze of others at a time of great vulnerability, among other things). Hewson claims she is instead “looking back at us from the experience” and indeed she is. However, the experience from which she is looking back is one of consensual sex, not rape.

Hewson did not enjoy making the video, she states. Not enjoying consensual sex with a stranger you’ve choreographed to “rape” you differs considerably from experiencing an act of sexual assault.

I confess myself entirely dumbfounded by this latest feminist effort to expose the damage done to raped women through a depiction of not-rape that effaces reality. I think I ought to be angry, but I’m too baffled for anger. Who is the consumer for whom this work is created? Is it intended for the titillation of the safe? Is it rape porn? Is it as ethically bereft as poverty porn or disaster porn?

Is it co-opting suffering for personal gain? For the delicious thrill of not being one of the violated, for the guilty pleasure of being privileged enough to only pretend it’s happening, like children frighten themselves by imagining monsters under the bed, just for the euphoric sensation of discovering there are none?

For mine, this work marks an alarming low in the discourse of sexual assault. It is bereft of context. Its raison d’être is as a simulation of rape, entirely gratuitous. It will be viewed with appalled fascination, no doubt by many, but what it will do for women and our unenviable position in the patriarchy is not apparent to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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94 Responses to “This is not a rape.”

  1. 8 Degrees of Latitude May 25, 2016 at 3:27 pm #

    You’re absolutely right. Nothing more to be said, really.

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  2. diannaart May 25, 2016 at 3:30 pm #

    I cannot watch “rape scenes” in movies, therefore I will not be lining up to watch Sophia Hewson’s film to even gain a perspective on what she is trying to achieve.

    Evn if a blow by blow depiction of a particularly brutal rape was aired, there will always be those who gain some perverse enjoyment from, whereas if a rape scene was less violent, then there will be viewers who’ll think “that was not so bad”…

    Maybe we need more male on male rape scenes for the penny to drop.

    * when I use the term “rape scene” I am referring to simulated rape only.

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    • Jennifer Wilson May 25, 2016 at 6:06 pm #

      I find such scenes almost impossible to watch, avoided Tarantino’s latest because of what I read about the violence towards the female character.
      I don’t want to see these things censored, I just don’t want to see them.
      Very, very few artists of all kinds have the talent to portray these things in a truthful way. It’s a big challenge.

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      • diannaart May 26, 2016 at 12:34 pm #

        I remain a fan of Tarantino’s – in spite of some issues and, of course, turn my head in scenes I find too traumatic – still haven’t watched the ear severing scene in “Reservoir Dogs” – I do appreciate Tarantino’s skill and humour.

        Having been hounded for daring to suggest that pornography is not at all a positive learning experience for young men (and young women) and told why don’t I just not watch it?… such empty comments indeed, I dare to tread such eggshells again.

        I do not watch porn, having only experienced it at the behest of former partners – even they found it uncomfortable and turned it off, the addition of myself with what was happening on screen – a bit too much conflict between reality and fantasy? I wish to point out I was not behaving with disgust or disapproval I was really trying to explore sex with a trusted partner. I am not going to describe the particular scenes.

        My partners never suggested it again and I did not even say anything – they were astute and intelligent enough simply to know that porn is too often too much from the male perspective. I do know they watched porn, erm, privately 😉
        I did not have a problem with that – these are adult males not children.

        I didn’t intend to discuss porn, again, I know how much it upsets some people.

        However, porn remains the extreme end of sexual objectification.

        My suggestion that male on male rape does not appear to have been taken up

        Rape is not wanted by anyone – that is why it is called rape, yet it is fantasised by ourselves and media to a degree which normalises and minimises such depictions, to a degree where, if no actual physical violence is evident, it is considered not that serious. Any victim of unwanted sex knows how much such violations remain forever.

        Our advertising industry would stagger to a halt without ‘soft’ porn – yet so many seemingly innocuous images reinforce the idea of sex as a commodity; that if the right price is offered anyone will sell themselves.

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        • diannaart May 26, 2016 at 12:35 pm #

          “My suggestion that male on male rape does not appear to have been taken up”

          I meant male on male rape scenes used as a wake up to men.

          Apologies, I find this too fraught.

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          • diannaart May 26, 2016 at 1:16 pm #

            OK I am trying to clarify my POV.

            What if men are objectified exactly the same way women are.

            Men ARE being presented in highly objectified and stylised ways already – but not (YET) in the manner women are nor so ubiquitous. But, if there is a dollar to be made, it will continue. Whether it reaches the same ridiculous extremes with men as it is with women – I do not know.

            But be warned. Men ARE victimised in many subtle ways (our alpha system only rewards a few men and even less women). Men need their own release from impossible ideals and it will only get worse if we do not change.

            Equality has been seized and masticated by the capitalist system and the result is not inspiring. For example, equal pay has meant that wages have been frozen – women may be earning more but men are earning less (except for the 1%ers) – hence it takes two incomes to provide for a family.

            I am sure many here can think of how so-called equality has been exploited.

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            • Jennifer Wilson May 26, 2016 at 3:50 pm #

              Have you read a book called Masculinities by Raewyn Collins? She identifies a hierarchy of masculinity & how hegemonic masculinity controls all others. It’s an interesting read, opened my eyes to some of these issues.

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              • diannaart May 26, 2016 at 5:58 pm #

                Jennifer I appreciate the recommendation.

                Would I be correct that many men would gain from reading such material?

                I realise I appear as if I am for banning porn – not true despite the accusations that have been made in the past, while most porn is unbelievably banal, there is an occasional gem. I want a fair go – a look at the worst porn can do, an acknowledgement for more care in its distribution. And, I know this will never happen, but porn film makers take a more inclusive view of human sexuality.

                🙂

                It is the ‘zeitgeist'(?) of porn that colours mainstream and adds to the objectification of women and is increasingly happening to men.

                For DQ

                We still regard pneumonia as a serious illness whether people make a complete recovery from it or not. Rape is a serious crime. Or do we judge, as one of our judiciary claimed some years ago, that a prostitute is less harmed by rape than a woman who does not work in the sex industry?

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                • doug quixote May 26, 2016 at 8:12 pm #

                  I don’t think that pneumonia is a useful analogy. And no, I for one do not so judge.

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                • Jennifer Wilson May 27, 2016 at 6:34 am #

                  Yes, I think men most definitely ought to read that book, and I agree with your “fair go” concept for porn 🙂

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                  • paul walter May 27, 2016 at 4:09 pm #

                    I will check out it out on google, but if it’s another dumpster full of undergrad gripe about “men” masked as rational discourse, I will drop it like a hot potato.

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        • Jennifer Wilson May 26, 2016 at 3:45 pm #

          Arguments about porn are so often polarised: I see the debate as nuanced, which is enough to get me flayed in some quarters. When the acts are criminal there should be prosecutions. I think porn is largely exploitative, but not always. I wouldn’t favour censorship. I’d rather make a case by case judgement about adult porn. I’ve seen a bit and always got bored very quickly. Erotica is far more interesting IMO.

          I agree that sexual violations change an individual forever. There’s before, and there’s after. I think DQ is arguing that the kind of after is up to the individual, which is largely true I think. I don’t think someone who finds it difficult or impossible to recover from sexual assault should be judged for that.A lot of factors are in play in recovering from trauma, not least of which is the attitude of people around you.

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  3. sam jandwich May 25, 2016 at 5:40 pm #

    I thought you might write about this Jennifer… in a sense I agree with what Sophia Hewson is *trying* to do. Raped women are often objectified insofar as they are depicted/assumed to be “broken”, “slut-shamed”, “the victim is to blame” etc, and I see this as an attempt to redirect the responsibility both for rape occurring, and also to empathise in a genuine way with the raped woman, onto the person looking/the wider society.

    But artists need to be careful not to take liberties with concepts and experiences that mean more to others than they do to them – and while it’s not Sophia Hewson’s fault, I think the publicity this piece is generating is symptomatic of the fact that on a global level we’re not ready to move past the “titillation of the safe” (which is a very insightful and incisive commentary on a lot of what Western society stands for at the moment!)

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    • Jennifer Wilson May 25, 2016 at 6:03 pm #

      Yes, Sam, I was also thinking that the safe reference includes much of what is currently happening in Australia & elsewhere. Isn’t it interesting, like the boredom of privilege needing some excitement.
      I agree that Hewson’s intentions were probably ok, if missing their mark. I’ve read some intense distress & outrage from survivors that I fully understand.

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  4. doug quixote May 25, 2016 at 7:36 pm #

    Warning: Devil’s Advocate post follows.

    Rape – whether by male on female or by male on male or even female on male – is a species of assault and battery. It is a power issue, an expression of dominance.

    It is only rarely a sexual release. Soldiers do it in time of war, to civilians of the defeated enemy; a lesser expression of dominance to that of slaughtering their soldiers.

    Men do it to women, as a matter of vengeance or dominance.

    But the victim’s attitude to it is the critical ongoing issue. Women raped in war will often take it almost in their stride, as a matter of course – lie back and put up with it, then get on with life. Not pleasant, not wanted but an incident of life. Better than being killed.

    If the victim can take vengeance, that is best; if that is not possible, get over it.

    That is difficult advice, is it not? Get over it. If you feel like a victim, then you are.

    If you feel that “it happened, it is over, it is past, I am alive” – then you are much better off.

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    • 8 Degrees of Latitude May 25, 2016 at 8:17 pm #

      Leaving aside the devil’s advocate bit (you’re good at those), I’d have shot any soldier of mine I found raping anyone in the circumstances you describe.

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      • doug quixote May 26, 2016 at 9:02 am #

        Yes, I agree with that sentiment. But is it not largely an issue of discipline as regards soldiers? No officer wants his troops looking out for the next woman to rape rather than the enemy to kill. And it is hardly a good way to win the hearts and minds of the civilians. Rape in war can often end in murder; sometimes the victim, sometimes the perpetrator, sometimes his comrades.

        But my main point is that after surviving the rape, being a victim is a subjective matter. You are a victim if you think you are. Revenge is sweet if it can be achieved, but sometimes it cannot be.

        As Jennifer says, “Get over it” is not helpful in itself because it has baggage but it is snappy. The alternative is the paragraphs she uses, accurate but lengthy.

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        • 8 Degrees of Latitude May 26, 2016 at 12:42 pm #

          But saying that rape ‘survival’ is a subjective issue ignores the varying effects such a crime can have on victims. On the other issue, rape is a crime, whether in a war environment or not. It’s a particularly vile one because it involves violation of someone’s body. It’s a power trip for the perpetrator, certainly. It can be a life sentence for the victim. I think we need to understand that how we might ‘respond and heal’ after such an assault, that’s not necessarily the experience of others who have been criminally and vilely abused.

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          • doug quixote May 26, 2016 at 1:00 pm #

            “Subjective” is entirely concerned with the victim’s point of view. “Violation” is a subjective and emotive term which denigrates and criminalises an act which by the simple addition of consent is legal, and often pleasurable.

            If you feel violated and vilely abused, then you are.

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            • 8 Degrees of Latitude May 26, 2016 at 1:08 pm #

              I think that’s precisely the point.

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              • doug quixote May 26, 2016 at 1:48 pm #

                I’m glad we agree on that, Richard.

                But if people are able to see themselves as only temporarily affected and not forever lessened and even destroyed, surely that is for the best.

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                • 8 Degrees of Latitude May 26, 2016 at 2:12 pm #

                  Well, it is. But we should not be dismissive by implication or any other mechanism of those for whom ‘getting over it’ is not an option.

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                • Jennifer Wilson May 26, 2016 at 3:51 pm #

                  Yes, but people usually need a good bit of help to do that after sexual trauma, DQ.

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            • Jennifer Wilson May 26, 2016 at 3:47 pm #

              DQ, you’ve lost me here.

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              • doug quixote May 26, 2016 at 4:48 pm #

                No; I am only saying that the definition of “rape” (etc) is “sexual intercourse without consent”. If there is consent . . .

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          • Jennifer Wilson May 26, 2016 at 3:46 pm #

            Survival is dependent on many factors, IMO, support, treatment, previous experience, it isn’t a matter of individual choice: some people don’t have the means to make a choice.

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        • Jennifer Wilson May 26, 2016 at 3:25 pm #

          Are you suggesting I’m long winded, DQ? 🙂

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    • Jennifer Wilson May 26, 2016 at 6:13 am #

      Not fond of your choice of phrase, DQ. “Get over it” isn’t helpful advice IMO.

      But I see what you are saying & while I wouldn’t tell anyone to “get over it” it’s true that finding one’s way through and past trauma, to the best of one’s ability, is the best victory, better even than vengeance.
      Before that’s possible though, it’s necessary to come to terms with having been a victim. The shame belongs with the perpetrator, not the victim. Being a victim isn’t a shameful state: perpetrating is.

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      • paul walter May 26, 2016 at 10:21 am #

        I suppose one other thing here could be age, with Sophia Hewson, if she is a younger person on the same detailed exploration of the adulthood bequeathed her by life.

        People can be complex in their motives..she wants to know what pain is, how intense the experience of rape is; the issue of life experience and genuine authenticity. It’s why sam jandwich again proved insightful for me.

        Thinking on it, I can’t afford the luxury of mockery, how much did I suffer before I learned to leave the cork in the liquor bottle for example.

        I hope my early days notion is right and Miranda finds her answers without paying too high a price.

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        • Jennifer Wilson May 26, 2016 at 3:26 pm #

          I think Sophia is thirty something PW

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          • paul walter May 27, 2016 at 12:53 pm #

            Ahhhhyes!!

            Thirty-something. Who knows more than a young person?

            God bless her, I hope she finds what she is looking for, but at past sixty, but I can assure her she’ll laugh at sixty, at what course she took to reach sixty, nursing the odd bruise.

            I beleive there is lot of complexity in what she is doing, but isn’t it the point of Australia: that here you get an opportunity to explore these cul de sacs and other remote places of the mind and heart, that so many around the world, too intent by necessity on day to day survival, never get the time and space to ponder upon.

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            • diannaart May 27, 2016 at 12:56 pm #

              Impact of rape and other consequences just another first world problem, right?

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              • Jennifer Wilson May 27, 2016 at 8:01 pm #

                I think PW meant only first world countries have the privilege of exploring simulated rape in art

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                • diannaart May 28, 2016 at 12:40 pm #

                  I understood PW’s meaning.

                  I believe that such discussion is a right rather than a ‘privilege’.

                  I regularly feel gratitude I happened to be born a white person in Australia. Such luck does not mean I do not question inequities here as well as in developing countries.

                  Just because women have it better here doesn’t mean we should just shut-up – we have the opportunity to lead by example.

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            • Jennifer Wilson May 27, 2016 at 8:00 pm #

              Yes, there is that, PW.

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              • paul walter May 28, 2016 at 12:18 am #

                You explained it well enough..for crissakes, if I’ve got things wrong or am missing something, let me know.

                Yes, I’m getting curious at what drives this woman, but it is in the context of understanding things I’ve initiated in the past with varying results myself and whether the event can achieve something worthwhile, including for Sophia Hewson herself.

                I haven’t taken potshots at Sophia Hewson.

                I think Jennifer Wilson would have us
                have a think at what produced the event and ponder some deeper underlying philosophical and aesthetic questions, starting with processes of personal actualisation, emergence and growth.

                I don’t think Wilson has ridiculed her, but wonders if she hamstrings herself psychologically, taking the course she has with her endeavour.

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          • paul walter May 30, 2016 at 1:40 pm #

            It’s ok, Ive realised a mistake I made in the thread starter missing the SMH link. Had I read it it would made any futher comment of mine superfluous.

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    • townsvilleblog May 26, 2016 at 9:01 am #

      Doug, whilst I appreciate your opinion, I’m sure that you have never been raped, as I have. I have felt the humiliation of having my penis in a place where I did not want it to be, and one of my best life long friends was raped by her grandfather from the time she was 6 to 14. She is 47 and the “monster” is still in her head to this day. Rape should be punished more severely than it currently is, 10 years should be the minimum sentence in my humble opinion.

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      • doug quixote May 26, 2016 at 9:12 am #

        The rape of a child is a different issue. I am talking about adults or near-adults; sorry if that wasn’t clear. Adults should be able to deal with the psychological issues in a way you can’t expect from a child.

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        • diannaart May 26, 2016 at 12:37 pm #

          Really?

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  5. paul walter May 26, 2016 at 6:15 am #

    Firstly, I think 8 Degrees makes a fair comment last up, since at least some of the post is to do with male ignorance or privilege. I doubt whether rape, when it reaches Anita Cobby level intensity, is something a victim necessarily “gets over” that quickly.

    It is a nasty crime and arouses deep feelings. Inevitably, some of the responses are then, not that good…the scapegoating of Julian Assange comes to mind.

    If the aim of Sara Hewson is to draw attention to actual crimes, or mere male dud-root selfishness, ignorance or lack of skill as to sex, I can’t ultimately say, not having seen it, but it does seem she herself is evidence of the grip rape has on many people’s minds. She may have been better off finding a better partner and getting to experience good sex as well and then commenting from a more balanced perspective though. Still, it’s her time and money .

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  6. townsvilleblog May 26, 2016 at 8:52 am #

    Reblogged this on Townsville Blog. and commented:
    Rape is an abhorrent act that needs to be punished more severely that it currently is.

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    • doug quixote May 26, 2016 at 9:06 am #

      I don’t think that is useful. If the penalty for rape is the same as that for murder, more victims will die. Fewer witnesses.

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  7. doug quixote May 26, 2016 at 9:20 am #

    For those interested in the issue of penalties, see :

    http://www.judcom.nsw.gov.au/publications/benchbks/sentencing/sexual_assault.html#p20-610

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    • paul walter May 26, 2016 at 10:27 am #

      Oh no.. not the semantic trap of what defines rape and what punishments there should be? Like yourself, I think there are degrees of rape and my guess is that in your heart of hearts you’d like to see the punishment fit the crime at both ends of the extremity spectrum.

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      • doug quixote May 26, 2016 at 11:21 am #

        Of course!

        BTW, in reference to bestiality the English Court of Appeal noted that it was the offender who needed help, not the dog. :))

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      • diannaart May 27, 2016 at 12:32 pm #

        There are degrees of murder, even degrees of robbery – this is why we have courts of law, imperfect they may be, but in most cases the experience of the judge and the abilities of a jury manage to get the answer correct.

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  8. ROARAWAR FEARTATA May 27, 2016 at 3:03 am #

    Tis another goddamned alarming low in the discourse of art!

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  9. diannaart May 27, 2016 at 12:12 pm #

    Just to be given a fair go to discuss porn.

    Without the unsupported rejections, without the false claims about my intentions, without the attempts to derail.

    Instead of the above mentioned, a fair exchange of ideas; solutions instead of the outright denial that there is even a problem at all.

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    • doug quixote May 27, 2016 at 12:23 pm #

      Greater minds than yours, or mine for that matter, have struggled fruitlessly with this issue. What new insights have you to make?

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      • diannaart May 27, 2016 at 12:30 pm #

        A discussion free of blatant negativity.

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        • paul walter May 27, 2016 at 12:32 pm #

          I like you two. You get on like a house on fire.

          Do I here the distant peal of wedding bells?

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        • doug quixote May 27, 2016 at 12:34 pm #

          Try the local sewing circle.

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          • paul walter May 27, 2016 at 12:57 pm #

            Nothing long-winded about THAT reply. You have the hide of a rhino, don’t you?

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            • diannaart May 27, 2016 at 1:29 pm #

              “Hide of a rhino”? Not even close.

              The self-defence of a little boy who believes he did not get sufficient play time with his toys and has been attempting to compensate since.

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              • paul walter May 29, 2016 at 9:16 am #

                Now you know why I tend to sit on the sidelinesm, dq.

                Not that I say this against Hypo and diaanart, who are entitled to question other’s statements, as we are: in fact Hypo’s blast at the (Feeney, for example?) ALP has justification, except for the reality of the dreadful Turnbull alternative

                I’ m actually weighing up a request from the ALP as to polling booths and feel unenthusiastic for it, for their sins, often discussed here, yet may bite my tongue and do it, for the fear and anger I feel at Turnbull and his corporate gangsters.

                If you don’t feel like blueing with them, go to Forrest Gump’s celebration of Duncan Storrar, a genuine working class scrapper and hero, for something you would find more postive and wholesome for yourself.

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                • diannaart May 29, 2016 at 1:12 pm #

                  Paul Walter

                  Before this thread became a slanging match, I wrote at length my concerns with the objectification of women, pointed out how such exploitation has an impact on men as well.

                  Instead,everything I wrote was just arbitrarily dismissed by DQ – till I had little else left to say – surely a goal DQ had in mind.

                  Even a good analogy was dismissed as ‘wrong’ – with no explanation, no alternative analogy, nada.

                  I don’t know who Hypo is – this person clearly is angered by DQ, which I can understand, however, I do not have any information as to Hypo’s own feelings on this topic, as s/he has not elaborated very much.

                  You go back to your sidelines PW – you don’t hold an opinion on anything? Well, you do about me, I’m very nasty, remember?

                  Meanwhile, DQ, continues to disparage anyone who dares to differ. Not all men agree with him, yet they remain conspicuously silent here.

                  Same old, same old.

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                • doug quixote May 29, 2016 at 1:17 pm #

                  Thanks, Paul.

                  I also am less than enthusiastic for Labor, except when I consider the Turnbull government which has all the same personnel as the Abbott government, and so well deserving of the sack.

                  The polls are starting to show that the voters are coming to the same conclusions. Huzzah!

                  🙂

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                  • diannaart May 29, 2016 at 1:23 pm #

                    Well done

                    doug quixote and paul walter – topic successfully derailed.

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                    • doug quixote May 29, 2016 at 2:06 pm #

                      Just a side discussion, Diana. If you want to return the discussion to Jennifer’s article, please do so as a comment at the foot.

                      I am happy to engage with anyone of good will.

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                  • paul walter May 29, 2016 at 2:06 pm #

                    I’ve become totally switched off from the election, yet the election is incredibly important, for where we head, an abyss that will deliver the hard thump of a realisation of a medieval civilisation coming into being, of the sort that makes todays sexism look childs play, if its Tea Party objectives are secured.

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                    • Jennifer Wilson May 30, 2016 at 12:46 pm #

                      I agree, PW, I’m finding the whole thing utterly boring & now I’ve decided where my vote goes may well ignore the rest of the lead up.

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                • Forrest Gumpp (@ForrestGumpp) May 30, 2016 at 6:04 am #

                  Or a little ironic diversion, courtesy of the interplay of the WordPress algorithms as they constantly re-order the presentation of the (sometimes ironic) images posted on the blog.

                  Here is something transient that I saw whilst attempting to preserve some textual contrapuntality in the observations of others as to Duncan Storrar compared to Limited News’ oh so widely published views:

                  “Fest, steht und treu die Wacht …”, die Wacht am Schaff!

                  ‘Sheep’. Nothing can hold a candle to it, although it appears at least seven have been caught trying.

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                  • Jennifer Wilson May 30, 2016 at 7:33 am #

                    Ahahahahaha!
                    I thought those images changed according to how many read the posts.

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            • doug quixote May 27, 2016 at 2:13 pm #

              It’s all a matter of finding one’s level, Mature sensible debate on difficult grey-area issues requires intelligent contributions from the debaters. I’ve seen little evidence that our Full Moon has what it takes.

              What about you, Paul? Sitting on the sidelines has its benefits, but how is your hide?

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              • diannaart May 27, 2016 at 3:00 pm #

                DQ

                Thus far I have observed nothing to indicate you can spell ‘debate’ let alone give the topic in question any more mature thought than your brittle defensiveness.

                If you wanted to drive away people from the topic – well done you, at least you have achieved this minor level.

                Have far more delicious things to do, than pander to a person who cannot tolerate the slightest criticism of his toys.

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              • Hypo May 27, 2016 at 8:50 pm #

                Still the Teflon troll,I see.

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                • Hypo May 27, 2016 at 8:51 pm #

                  BTW, The ‘Teflon Troll’ comment was aimed fair and square at DQ.

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                • doug quixote May 28, 2016 at 9:22 am #

                  And what exactly have you contributed to this debate? Or to any other debate?

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                  • Hypo May 28, 2016 at 9:42 am #

                    Dearest DQ,
                    Certainly not a litany of apologia for a spineless ALP, or any denial of the impact their ‘opportunistic poll sluttery’ or what it has done to us,themselves,and helpless human beings.A mediocrity of someone principles is all that is left of a the ALP.
                    But that’s veering off this topic, so I’ll just say look for the contributions I make (when I do) for yourself.I was just making the observation that despite my absence,upon a passing return you are still ,sigh,….

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                    • doug quixote May 28, 2016 at 5:50 pm #

                      That’s it?

                      That’s the best reply you can manage?

                      You have the temerity to call me a troll, and when called upon to say what you contribute that is the best you can do?

                      Pathetic.

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  10. paul walter May 27, 2016 at 3:39 pm #

    I will attempt to answer you shortly, dq, but diannart is deservedly scolding you at the mo for your sins, so will come back later when/ if she finishes.

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    • diannaart May 27, 2016 at 4:43 pm #

      I’m done, PW

      No gains in arguing with bullies, even those who like to claim they’re only tilting at windmills.

      🙂

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  11. Hypo May 28, 2016 at 8:54 am #

    FYI

    28th May is International Day of Action for Women’s Health

    http://www.populationmatters.org/international-day-action-womens-health/

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  12. doug quixote May 29, 2016 at 4:16 pm #

    I have been reading the accounts of the rapes in Brazil; they suggest to me a deep-seated malaise in that society, what the articles call a rape culture. It appears that the most recent outrage, many men attacking a 16 year old girl, would have gone largely unnoticed amongst the other outrages, but for some of the perpetrators posting a 40 second video online.

    Women are right to be outraged, and so are men. Women see themselves as potential victims, but men see people they love – their daughters, their wives, their sisters, their friends – also at risk of attack.

    It is up to us all as responsible citizens to discuss with our young men, to educate our children, to act whenever we see bullying behaviour. For make no mistake, rape is a form of bullying. Aggravated and extreme physical intimidation, beyond what we think of as bullying, but its logical extension if left unchecked.

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    • diannaart May 29, 2016 at 7:00 pm #

      BREAKING NEWS – transmission intermittent…

      ….man would rather discuss rape in any other country than his own……. something about control… debate…. winning at all costs…. bullying….

      lost transmission nothing else getting through….

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      • paul walter May 29, 2016 at 7:41 pm #

        Yes diannart, South America is the real world..huge slums in cities of ten or twenty milion people, where the police hunt the young before international occasions like the Olympics and people subsist in a massive crime underculture to scramble together a few bucks to survive a day on.

        No, let ‘s not think of the real world of 7 billion mostly badly off people, when the best we can do is talk about a woman making movies of herself having sex with a man in a privileged enclave of twenty million folk here.

        As it happens, there is no doubt context is a useful torch in producing a final picture.

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      • doug quixote May 29, 2016 at 8:27 pm #

        I expected better from you, Diana.

        What a shame.

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    • Jennifer Wilson May 30, 2016 at 12:47 pm #

      Yes, DQ. Absolutely.

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  13. Forrest Gumpp (@ForrestGumpp) June 19, 2016 at 4:13 am #

    This is not on topic, either, although it does record the victim impact of a pack rape along the way. I am storing the link here for as long as the site remains available because its content touches upon this and so many other articles that have been written, published, and chronicled on ‘Sheep’.

    https://contraspin.co.nz/the-weaponising-of-social-pt-2-stomping-on-ioerrors-grave/

    A long read, and one not for the unbackgrounded.

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    • Forrest Gumpp (@ForrestGumpp) June 19, 2016 at 8:27 am #

      And an anniversarial memorial to a passage from human being to verb.

      Random thought. All these cars we are being told about inexplicably barrelling into shops and houses on what passes for news these days, is this all just collateral damage and/or camouflage?

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      • paul walter June 19, 2016 at 3:47 pm #

        Ive just tried something a bit more detailed in response but my own pc is playing up, especially since Telstra sent me a new yodels, dances and whistles modem with odd cable problems.

        Sufficient to say it rings very true, follows a formula.

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      • Forrest Gumpp (@ForrestGumpp) June 19, 2016 at 5:43 pm #

        One learns something every day:

        Jahrzeit. Anniversary of death.

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  14. Forrest Gumpp (@ForrestGumpp) June 20, 2016 at 7:11 am #

    And right out of left field ….

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  15. paul walter June 20, 2016 at 11:26 pm #

    Gee, it’s quiet here. Is Wilson ok or did that flu really get a grip?

    Hope you get well soon, Dr. Jennifer Wilson..

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