Politics. What is it good for?

11 Jun

Shewee

 

I don’t know if there are people out there as fed up as I am with this interminable election campaign, with its interminable commentators making interminable commentary and engaging in interminable speculation in between interminable gotcha moments, and what in the name of all that is good and great and human, is the bloody point of it all?

Politics, the art or science of government, has become merely the art or science of winning and holding government, as is irrefutably evidenced by the last two leaders of this country whose overweening ambition was to become Prime Minister, without any idea of what to actually do once that personal ambition was achieved. I’m not partisan: there’s a persuasive argument to include Kevin Rudd in that narcissistic leader pool as well.

Caretaker Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull recently plumbed new depths of sog with his sepia video of himself as an infant astride the shoulders of his single dad, as if to reassure voters that loving his dad, who left him a property portfolio worth some $2 million, (he probably would have loved him even if he hadn’t: I’m not the one drawing false equivalences here) somehow qualifies him to lead the country.

This humongous non sequitur makes me question, yet again, Turnbull’s much-flaunted promise to treat the punters with respect as a means of distinguishing himself from his predecessor, that lunatic (to quote Turnbull’s father-in-law and former attorney-general Tom Hughes, even though the old man took it back last week) Tony Abbott. It is difficult to take back having described someone as a lunatic, especially when the original comment rings with far more truth than does the retraction.

Then on Friday morning I looked at Twitter only to find a photo of Pauline Hanson or her doppelgänger peeing into a cup at the football. Well, I thought, the day can only improve but I was wrong because election.

Hanson is not welcome in the parliament, thundered Turnbull, which is an astoundingly  stupid comment because if she’s elected she’s in the parliament: this is a liberal democracy and politicians can’t refuse entry to other elected representatives you’d think Turnbull of all people would know that and apart from anything else, he pissed off innumerable Hanson supporters who took the comment personally, as of course anyone would at the prospect of their elected representative being ostracised in a parliament where everyone is meant to be equally representing everyone outside of it.

Hanson retaliated by observing Turnbull to be arrogant and I, for one, find myself agreeing with her on this if nothing else. I don’t agree with her (or her doppelgänger) crouching on their haunches to pee into a cup in a football stadium: women can actually pee standing up (with or without assistance, see image above) and in such a situation it might be more seemly to do just that. Or there’s always bush wees, as we’ve taught the young ones in our family bush wees are good, until we realised they thought we meant peeing in any bushes anywhere anytime rather than peeing in the forest, but anyway.

It signals the end days of a society, said Aristotle or Plato, I can’t remember which and am in such a state of election-induced lethargy I can’t be arsed using my Google finger, when tolerance and apathy become the dominant public sentiments. Are we there yet?

There is so much one can hardly bear to see and hear: the unending violence against women, the cavalier destruction of the Great Barrier Reef, the determination to mine the country into eternity, the neglect of and disinterest in our most vulnerable citizens, the wicked scapegoating of waterborne asylum seekers, the increasing privilege and entitlement of the haves: how can my one vote possibly have any real effect on any of these sites of heartbreak?

As Bob Dylan observed, the only thing I know how to do is to keep on keeping on, a line I have on many occasions found useful and here we are again. Our politicians are a sorry-arsed lot on the whole, at least the ones who claw their way to the top. We have not yet created a Trump, but I don’t doubt it’s within our capabilities and neither does Jonathan Green in this gloomy piece.

But all is not lost. I can see some use for that Shewee thing, in the kayak, yes definitely. I don’t attend footy matches but there are traffic holdups on the Pacific Highway when you’ve forgotten to pee before you left home.

It doesn’t seem at all remarkable that a post on the usefulness or otherwise of politics should end up with commentary on urination, so I might just leave things here, wish you all well for the next few weeks of shameless propaganda, and take myself back to the couch to continue my binge re-watch of Mad Men. Ah, they knew how to treat women back then. No Shewee for you, sweetheart.

 

 

 

 

 

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120 Responses to “Politics. What is it good for?”

  1. Allegedly Noely (@YaThinkN) June 11, 2016 at 5:00 pm #

    “I don’t know if there are people out there as fed up as I am with this interminable election campaign”

    Oh Good Dog YES!!

    I know I have been super busy with work and life, but, in the past I would still have taken time to blog about something that happened during a campaign, even if it was a smaller little keyboard thumper at 4am in the morning. But this campaign, half the time I can’t even be arsed to have a whinge on Twitter to distract myself while I wait for some work to upload on the interminable internet connection we have (thanks for that too Malcolm).

    I know that is wrong, I do believe every vote counts and believe me, when you live in a super safe blue ribbon LNP seat for decades, surely that is the definition of optimism? BUT this year, this election, I’m with Jen, I am fed up with this interminable election campaign and it’s hold on to power at all costs, truth and decency be buggered 😦

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    • Jennifer Wilson June 11, 2016 at 6:48 pm #

      But we’ll still vote, Noely & not just because we’ll be fined if we don’t…

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    • Jennifer Wilson June 11, 2016 at 6:55 pm #

      Fed up as I am, I’m still voting & I know you are too, Noely. And not just because we’ll get fined if we don’t.

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      • Allegedly Noely (@YaThinkN) June 11, 2016 at 7:11 pm #

        Yeah I know… The whine won’t stop me voting, even though it is 122 on Queensland Senate this year, stuffed if I know how long that will take me to number all below the line so I have the pleasure of putting Bernard Gaynor last LOL 😉

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      • peartonblog June 12, 2016 at 8:32 am #

        I am not sure if I will vote this election. I normally go to Canberra to hand out howtos for the Greens because we are in a stupidly safe electorate for the LNP, but for some reason I am reluctant this election. I don’t know why really.
        I sometimes scrutineer in Canberra, and last election more than ever before people wrote on their papers rather than vote. I think that there is a tremendous disengagement that unfortunately favors the two old parties.

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        • Jennifer Wilson June 12, 2016 at 8:39 am #

          I can’t not vote. I don’t want to, as a protest at the filthy stinking mess of it all, but I can’t not vote.

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        • doug quixote June 12, 2016 at 8:48 am #

          It may not count in your electorate but it may count in the Senate; and there is value in the national percentage vote – the more the better to assist in throwing out this unsatisfactory government.

          Vote.

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          • peartonblog June 12, 2016 at 9:03 am #

            Yes, you’re both right, of course. I really feel for our young people. I feel as though politics is getting crappier and crappiest of late.
            And two months of no government?? Surely that proves the irrelevance of any government. Sack federal government and give the public service a charter like the ABC. They can’t do worse??

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  2. doug quixote June 11, 2016 at 5:22 pm #

    Ah, the joys of penis envy. 🙂

    A certain golf club received a complaint from a woman member about men peeing on the course (near trees, one supposes). The committee considered the issue with great seriousness, and decided that it was only fair and equitable to extend the same privilege to the female members.

    As for the politics I agree with Jennifer.

    Vote for the Team which was lead by the lunatic if you like. And please be advised that if Turnbull loses Abbott will be leader again straight away, whilst if Turnbull falls over the line, Abbott will challenge within 6 months and may well win, to become PM again. (Avert!)

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    • Jennifer Wilson June 11, 2016 at 6:50 pm #

      Agree with DQ’s assessment of LNP outcomes. Abbott is waiting in the wings…

      For the record, I have never envied any actual penis. The power it symbolises is another matter….

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      • paul walter June 11, 2016 at 8:11 pm #

        Actually, may I be permitted to humbly contradict? You indeed DO have a (micro) penis, in the form of a clit, a little extension that provides the same margin for delight for you as my dinger for myself.

        It does not come in enlarged form for women, because women never evolved an outside fixture for peeing, having mastered the art of hover.

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        • Jennifer Wilson June 12, 2016 at 5:14 am #

          The clit is not a micro penis, PW, the penis is a distorted clit.
          You must know I am obliged to make this argument.
          Anyways, every human foetus starts off female, proving my point that the penis is an enlarged clit.
          😀😀😀😀

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          • doug quixote June 12, 2016 at 8:50 am #

            I’m all in favour of an enlarged clit.

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          • paul walter June 12, 2016 at 11:01 am #

            (Blanches).

            I stand corrected (awp).

            Curious thing, human genetics, but will say no more. Feel mangled at mo, apart from observing that though it may be true that some of us start out female, half of us grow out of it.

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            • Jennifer Wilson June 12, 2016 at 11:14 am #

              I was joking with you PW, no mangling intended & jus to demonstrate my good intentions I won’t even notice that last phrase. ☮

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  3. paul walter June 11, 2016 at 5:22 pm #

    You have survived your bout with the flu and are back to your cheerful “usual”.

    I did check up the last couple of days, thought you might be hovering about the place.

    I remember this peeing problem with girls/women and remember a dear girlfriend of mine who loved to get up and about and wander through scrub. The inevitable would happen. She’d then have to find a place to squat and sometimes I had to hold her hands so she didn’t teeter, in some locations.

    Marvellous woman, she was.

    I don’t agree we didn’t find our Trump.. the person was Tony Abbott.

    As for the election, so far defined by what it shows of human nature and the latest example is this :

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jun/11/election-2016-liberal-party-candidate-resigns-brothel-melbourne

    But I think there is an underlying factor involving the msm coverage that bugs people. So much self censorship and refusals to call spades, spades.

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    • Jennifer Wilson June 11, 2016 at 6:53 pm #

      Do you really thing Abbott equates to Trump, PW? You’ll have to elaborate on that one.

      Thank you for worrying about me. 😄

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      • paul walter June 11, 2016 at 8:04 pm #

        Of course I worried about you. You’ve had a few adventures the last few years and the flu is not an ideal way to live through several days a the best of times.

        As to Trump /Abbott, I will have to think in more detail, but for the moment I offer the following as suggestive: Both are arrogant, ago scentric, male, sexist, deceptive and insensitive.

        Both are pathological liars, although am sure at least some sister’n claim this is the case with ALL men, both push the ludicrous bald-faced and dislike female TV Presenters.

        Trump is abrasive, but I don’t think he has the same deep chip on shoulder pathology as Abbott, who is irredeemably ruled by his subjectivities…Trump is probably merely a common or garden asshole and eccentric who never had the time to sit down and think through things.

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      • doug quixote June 11, 2016 at 9:42 pm #

        Equates? Not sure about equating, but I do know I’d piss on both of them, unless perhaps they were on fire . . .

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      • peartonblog June 12, 2016 at 8:43 am #

        Tony Abbott was my immediate response, but, no not even close, except maybe that they were both dropped on their heads?

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        • Jennifer Wilson June 12, 2016 at 10:14 am #

          Abbott may the closest we come to a Trump. But I agree, there’s a world of difference in their styles, but maybe their outcomes are similar.

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    • silkworm June 11, 2016 at 11:53 pm #

      You’ve conjured up an image of true love, Paul.

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  4. silkworm June 11, 2016 at 11:44 pm #

    I spend most of my time on the net watching pee-porn, and I come here for relief; and what do I get here? Relief!

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  5. townsvilleblog June 12, 2016 at 8:20 am #

    It’s a bloody shame politics can be used as a vehicle for change for the better which is badly needed in Australia today. We have a choice between the evil LNP and Labor basically so I am choosing Labor, not because I believe that they have all the answers, but to stop our country becoming a carbon copy of the USA. Labor are much more humane than the LNP whose main policy is to give $48 bn of taxpayers money to corporate Australia who pay little to no tax. Labor care much more about “people” and people vote. The Greens are more progressive and I would like to see a swag of their environment polices adopted but the Greens do do have enough support to win a swag of seats in the House of Representatives so I’ll have to settle for Labor and hope they stick to their promises because I know the LNP won’t stick to theirs, do we all remember “no cuts to health and no cuts to education” followed by an $80 bn cut to same…

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    • Jennifer Wilson June 12, 2016 at 8:40 am #

      We need politicians who care about changes for the better, Townsville. We seem to have duds everywhere we look.

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    • peartonblog June 12, 2016 at 8:54 am #

      Yes, I thought that I might be able to vote Labor (I did last election because they put up an excellent local candidate) but then they released their tertiary education policy, arrrghhhhhh!

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  6. diannaart June 12, 2016 at 3:52 pm #

    I don’t require a plastic funnel to pee standing. I am not alone, either – many women can pee standing up. Just not usually discussed, besides it is anti-capitalist because there exists a shewee industry wanting to sell plastic stuff.

    However, I do require a space where I feel safe – squatting in bushes makes me feel safer than standing in public and peeing against a wall. But that’s just me.

    Women aren’t taught/encouraged to pee standing – we should be.

    We really weren’t discussing the election were wee?

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    • Jennifer Wilson June 12, 2016 at 5:31 pm #

      I can pee standing up without that plastic aid too, Dianne. I can see its uses for spaces such as a kayak or car, though.

      No, discussing the election is bad for my health, though I was amused to hear today that the Libs have given their preferences to the ALP and not Greens.

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      • diannaart June 12, 2016 at 6:14 pm #

        Didn’t think of kayak… tricky getting the stance right… car… yes, there have been occasions… stuck in grid lock traffic…

        … WTF Libs preferring Labor over Greens? Not entirely sure what this means except that any denials by Labor of moving towards the right these past 20+ years are lies… but not discussing election either 😉

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        • paul walter June 12, 2016 at 8:37 pm #

          Yep..Townsville commented on that. If the Greens and Labor slung as much muck at the Tories as they did each other, maybe the country would be back on track for a better politics.

          It is so futile, progressive politics split down the middle again on pragmatism versus idealism. Left hand knoweth not what the right hand doeth, etc.

          The Greens represent core beleifs in the abstract, Labor the application of core beleifs in a real world setting, with all its flaws and the mutual opponent smiles contentedly into the red glow of the winter hearth.

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          • peartonblog June 12, 2016 at 9:53 pm #

            The trouble is that ALP party (not members) hate their own left as much as they hate the Greens.

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            • paul walter June 12, 2016 at 11:40 pm #

              Beleive me, pearton blog, I’ve spent a lifetime trying to figure out the ALP Right.

              I do think there are just a few things some Greens don’t quite understand with the ALP blue collar base and what drives it, its fears and insecurities, related to history.

              The inability to take a positive from this election involving any of the parties, makes it the most disheartening on record, but I suppose that’s Globalisation.

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            • Jennifer Wilson June 13, 2016 at 10:27 am #

              Factions factions factions.

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          • Jennifer Wilson June 13, 2016 at 10:32 am #

            I just hate them all.

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  7. Forrest Gumpp (@ForrestGumpp) June 12, 2016 at 5:25 pm #

    Thank you for clarifying what that tweet was about. And I think your question has, with the effluxion of time, more or less answered itself.

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    • Jennifer Wilson June 12, 2016 at 5:36 pm #

      It’s one of those rhetorical questions. Like politicians ask.

      I don’t know if that photo was Hanson or not, but I don’t care either.

      Did you discover what Uhlmann’s tripe is called?

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      • Forrest Gumpp (@ForrestGumpp) June 13, 2016 at 1:37 am #

        I, too, was bored. I responded to your tweet with deliberate density:

        There was an ambiguity within it which I exploited. I had/have no idea as to whether Uhlmann has/is about to put out a new book, much less what it might be called. If there really is one, then ‘Uhlmann’s Tripe’ sounds as good a name as any.

        I was not trying to deliberately derail the twitter convo, that is just the way it worked out. Like what the other tweep said, “there is your anarchy right there” OWTTE.

        Sorry if it spoiled anything about the best little whorehouse in Frankston that might otherwise have come to fruition.

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        • Jennifer Wilson June 13, 2016 at 10:26 am #

          I have no idea where that discussion went, I had other fish to fry….

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          • paul walter June 13, 2016 at 12:05 pm #

            Used to hate tripe as a kid..just heaved on it. It was an offal experience.

            Loved me nanna’s crumbed lamb brain in a white sauce with spuds and veg, but.

            Also Lamb’s fry…

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  8. jacquihinshaw June 12, 2016 at 6:38 pm #

    I would like to see Don & Peggy’s ad campaign for the Shewee 🤔

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  9. Forrest Gumpp (@ForrestGumpp) June 13, 2016 at 1:37 pm #

    Perhaps this gives a clue to the silence of the duopoly and the MSM as to Parakeelia:

    Without naming the entities in either case, one of which we now know independently to be Parakeelia, single nominated software suppliers are claimed to be referred to in the Department of Finance entitlements manual as the only entities for which electorate allowance expenditure reimbursement claims by Members of the Parliament will be approved!

    There will, presumably, exist some form of paper trail as to how this conduit of taxpayer funds to political parties was set up.

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  10. Forrest Gumpp (@ForrestGumpp) June 23, 2016 at 8:49 am #

    Politics, as we might understand it in Australia at the moment, may not be good for much, but Twitter, for all the would be censorial manipulation attempted of it, has been. It produces hilarious twitter memes like #faketradie and, more to the point, the Streisand effect hashtag conversation, #Parakeelia.

    The #Parakeelia tweetstorm has produced this:

    The linked article also helps explain the relative silence from the political class and its embedded media commentariat.

    Of the #faketradie meme, more later.

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  11. Hypo June 23, 2016 at 10:48 am #

    FG

    Sadly Mal will get the baton, and shortly after he will become a door mat for Abbott.There are onions to eat.
    The only other scenario is even more heinous.One of a Turnbull PM and an Abbott defence minister.
    Sleep well.
    : )

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    • Forrest Gumpp (@ForrestGumpp) June 23, 2016 at 12:11 pm #

      I’m not pretending to call the result, Hypo, nor even endorse the NT News’ call of it. I’m merely giving an opinion as to the extent of derision in which I see the genuine electors holding the present government. I haven’t seen a government held in such derision since 1975 before the Dismissal.

      I am quite confident that with the as many as 30+% of enrollments in any given electoral Division being those of persons who do not/no longer live there, any genuine electoral result determined by electors voting in accordance with law could be over-ridden were those out of place enrollments to be mobilised to claim votes.

      A former Electoral Commissioner gave a roundabout warning as to this situation in a submission to an inquiry into the electoral rolls in 2000, but due in part to the fact that there had seemingly never been any official cross-referencing of the population ELIGIBLE to enroll with the number of persons actually enrolled, the extent and seriousness of this situation remained un-noticed.

      The major consideration from a perpetration point of view, in such a circumstance, being that as to how to ensure such over-riding does not get to be recognised for what it is, not one as whether the erstwhile genuine result itself can be over-ridden.

      I think that is where we are at. Do the powers behind the throne risk discovery, or make the best of going with the flow, that is the question.

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  12. paul walter June 23, 2016 at 2:05 pm #

    It isn’t easy to feel optimistic just now and it will be a vicious government, if it is put back.

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    • Forrest Gumpp (@ForrestGumpp) June 23, 2016 at 2:33 pm #

      Yes. I am suspicious Whitlam set their plan back decades by orchestrating his own dismissal. I think a need is seen to bumrush Australia into line with their own plans and timetable for the US. I suspect they cannot afford for Australia to succeed or at least remain stable as a benchmark for comparison.

      I see neither Turnbull nor Shorten as being at the apices of pyramids. I see only one pyramid, with no resident Australian at the apex.

      I guess its now a question as to how desperate they are, exactly how much ‘proxy’ vote can be deployed, and how well they have assessed the Australian temperament.

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      • paul walter June 24, 2016 at 9:56 am #

        It’s unfortunate in a way that for those that get to see through the system.

        Like Fake Tradie, perhaps a state of ignorance is bliss has its seductive appeal: surrender, let it wash over you, another time another place, another life. Too bad if it is like 1939 and you are to discover they weren’t going to leave you alone for compliance; that compliance to disempowerment and self abnegation is death,one way or the other…

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        • doug quixote June 24, 2016 at 10:58 am #

          “Fake Tradie” all right. Just when he’s getting ahead with his tax haven in the Cayman islands and his three negatively geared houses in Toorak, Mosman and Point Piper, Labor wants to steal his play lunch!

          Really cuts me up.

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  13. doug quixote June 24, 2016 at 10:48 am #

    Governments have to deserve to be re-elected, and this one deserves to be thrown out.

    The sheep who voted for Tony Abbott’s mob three years ago (yes, that’s all it was!) are still feeling sheepish about it and have for 9 months been tempted back into the fold by Tony-Abbott-in-a-better-suit, aka Malcolm Turnbull.

    But the arrogance and dismissiveness of Turnbull have re-emerged to haunt the Looters & Nutters Party. He says he will win. He always has, hasn’t he?

    Consider the substance of the two main parties and admire the brave policy-driven approach by Labor, compared with the “cut and slash, but let’s look after our mates” approach from the Looters. There really is no comparison.

    Throw them out.

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  14. Forrest Gumpp (@ForrestGumpp) June 24, 2016 at 4:19 pm #

    Politics is also good for this:

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  15. doug quixote June 24, 2016 at 4:39 pm #

    The Poms must be crazy. The exit campaign is led by and favoured by the RWNJ brigade. Their Pound has crashed, their credit rating is downgraded, their standard of living is at risk and will fall . . . all for a few xenophobic concerns and a desire for a lost empire that they still think they have!

    DQ rolls his eyes.

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    • paul walter June 24, 2016 at 6:22 pm #

      I fully sympathise with the “leave” vote and see it as a long pent up venting of frustration against those who brought the world the Meltdown , high unemployment and a labour glut and the parallel demolishing of social infrastructure along the same lines as the Looters here are about.

      It might be dumb, but it is very explicable

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      • doug quixote June 24, 2016 at 9:44 pm #

        Perhaps; but they’ve cut off their noses to spite their faces.

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        • paul walter June 25, 2016 at 12:01 am #

          I can see I am going to have to role out industrial strength stuff:

          https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/24/david-cameron-resign-teflon-cockiness

          http://clubtroppo.com.au/2016/06/24/brexit-and-deliberative-democracy-special-i-told-you-so-front-page-reposting/

          No, they didn’t cut off their noses to spite their faces.

          ‘”Information vacuum” Murdoch, City of London, Cameron and a host of other upper-class types, the ones who bought Britain the suffering of the Meltdown and after, did that- the people are just reacting to the pain the amputation caused.

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          • paul walter June 25, 2016 at 12:02 am #

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          • doug quixote June 25, 2016 at 8:44 am #

            I have no sympathy and less regard for Cameron. The born to rule mob ought never be allowed near the levers of power. And speaking of Malcolm . . .

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          • Forrest Gumpp (@ForrestGumpp) June 26, 2016 at 3:50 am #

            Indeed. In every respect.

            And two flew over the cuckoo’s nest. Epitomising as exemplars the very ‘political class’ that enables the continued conduct of this ‘drone warfare’.

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        • doug quixote June 25, 2016 at 8:36 am #

          I liked this quote from your second link, Paul:

          “If the broadcast media stuck to their ‘shape of the earth: views differ’ policy, our EU membership might disappear as a result.”

          The problem with offering Yes/No voting options is that it implies that there are two legitimate options. The same has occurred with the treatment of climate change in this country. The mass media have sought out the negative arguments and broadcast them as if they had equal validity to the views of 99% of climate scientists (ie the ‘pro’ case).

          Some issues should be a matter for decision by the elected representatives in parliament, properly informed and advised by the public service.

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  16. Hypo June 25, 2016 at 9:38 am #

    The threat or terrorism in Europe the UK and eventually here has now doubled after Brexit.& I Have to agree with DQ.Nose /face/knife.

    Desperate Monarchists and patriots would rather die early with a flag in their hand than live in peace with different coloured skin.America is doing the same thing.Voting to tear themselves down the guts.
    The human plague gets closer and closer to evolving backwards.Here we are in full cave man tribal display.Watch Abbott milk this opportunity.Mal is a goner in the first six months.But his rewards from the Neo Con Kings will be worth it.(to him).

    Brexit.
    Just another leaf falls in our ever stagnating pond.

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    • helvityni June 25, 2016 at 7:32 pm #

      The thought of even three months (weeks, days, hours) under ‘Lucy and ME’ is unbearable, where’s the effing EXIT…

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      • Hypo June 25, 2016 at 9:09 pm #

        Helvi,
        The ‘exit’ is in the hearts and minds of those who enable the scum, who disable our collective humanity,altruism and connection to the planet.
        We vote apathetically and emphatically to allow the lowest life forms amongst us to fuck us over.Apathy and ignorance is a far greater enemy than any other.

        For those who continue to fight the good fight…..The wall is thick, the head is willing,but the heart is fragile…….. and the time is short.

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  17. Hypo June 25, 2016 at 10:26 pm #

    “If you leave me now” Chicago

    “You can go your own way” F Mac

    “England Swings” Roger Whittaker

    “You left me, just when I needed you most” Randy Van Warmer

    “Fuck You”(Lily Allen, Cee-Lo Green)

    “It’s the End of the World as We Know It (And I Feel Fine)” REM

    so,so many more.

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  18. doug quixote June 25, 2016 at 11:32 pm #

    Timeline June 2020:

    Following the 2017 break up of the UK, the Duchy of Greater London (now ruled by Duke George VII of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha [formerly Prince Charles] and Lord High Mayor Boris Johnson) announced today that they would hold a plebiscite on whether North London should have to put up with South London any longer.

    The Lord High Mayor advocated the “Leave the Southern Bastards!” campaign saying that most of the terrorists lived south of the Thames and that after the bridges were cut there would be no need of the wall which was planned, at great expense. He said “Trump’s Wall cost $1.5 trillion and still didn’t keep those #@@*** Mexicans out of USA, so I’m sure we can do better for less!”

    The poll will take place next Tuesday.

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  19. Hypo June 25, 2016 at 11:50 pm #

    In the year 25 25.

    Seriously back to songs,DQ>
    “Back Stabbers” by The O’Jays.

    Notice how both LNP and ALP did not want to touch Brexits true impact, with a ten foot pole?
    That can only mean one thing, and “she’ll be right” aint it.

    This is both big parties worst nightmare.Rupert will be chuffed, but say diddly fck meaningful ,in his pox rag publications.OMG , let’s hope this dries up the parasitic troughs across the globe.

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    • doug quixote June 26, 2016 at 12:08 am #

      “If you leave me, can I come too?”

      “The first cut is the deepest”

      “It’s only a flesh wound!”

      “Why don’t ya all get fucked!”

      . . . could go on for hours . . .

      🙂

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      • Hypo June 26, 2016 at 7:44 am #

        “I shoulda known better”
        “Can we still be friends”
        My fave?
        “The Final Countdown”, by [yep], Europe LOL.

        DQ, If If you,anyone, have ever wondered how stupid people can actually be, when it comes to voting…..

        “A voter, who gave his name as Adam, spoke to the BBC about his decision to tick the Leave box and said he had not anticipated the period of uncertainty following the referendum.

        He said: “I’m shocked that we voted for Leave, I didn’t think that was going to happen. I didn’t think my vote was going to matter too much because I thought we were just going to remain.”

        This election there will be more Adams than ever in Australia.
        This common brain fade ^ explains Abbott’s victory.What a shame brain fades and capitalism combined with overpopulation , at its end game =…………

        ….. well you know what I’m going to say, so I’ll leave it there,eh?

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        • doug quixote June 26, 2016 at 9:45 am #

          It appears that any human being who is a citizen over 18 years of age can vote. Taking away the vote from idiots imbeciles and morons (technical terms for those with IQs under 30, 30-50 and 50-70) would be a start, though in the UK:

          ‘”idiots” may not vote and “lunatics” only during their lucid periods. Those compulsorily detained in psychiatric hospitals, for example, cannot vote.’

          But it seems morons are eligible, as are lucid lunatics, aka RWNJ.

          In Australia anyone who voted for Cory Bernardi, Lionhelmet etc should lose their vote, and those who voted for Abbott Bishop and Mirabella should be suspended for two elections, hoping they’d come to their senses eventually.

          We live in hope.

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          • Hypo June 26, 2016 at 10:06 am #

            WE have no choice but to ‘live in hope’.
            But I go back to my earlier comments, as morbid(realistic) as they may seem and note this.
            Abbott was a known (far) worse option than Turnbull now is.And look what happened FFS.
            I predict therefore the LNP will profit from this.Hate the greens as ppl will, the circuit breaker might need to be a green dominated senate, although my opinion of Di Natale is he is more about him, than the grass-roots green ethos which is almost invisible these days.

            The ad blitz is due any day soon.I brains will be fired with Turnbull praise and Shorten attack ads.

            Let’s face Australia changed under Howard, when he harnessed a fragment of Hanson-ism and tissue cultured it into a permanent legitimacy of hate as a ‘right.’
            The USA has done it, now the UK.Almost lemming like in its outcome.
            This is where the developed world finds itself.Staring at its own arse as it implodes.Even basic democracy is unrecognisable.

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            • Hypo June 26, 2016 at 10:08 am #

              Typo> ” I brains ” should read ‘our’ brains.

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      • Hypo June 26, 2016 at 9:52 am #

        Brexit @ Sweethearts

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  20. Forrest Gumpp (@ForrestGumpp) July 17, 2016 at 9:13 am #

    Embedded here largely for the record of the questions asked in the linked petition:

    https://twitter.com/OZloop/status/754445347850625024:

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    • Hypo July 17, 2016 at 9:48 am #

      There’s that word democracy again.

      Know this,electronic voting will see dead democracy,less participation and more hacking/rigging/fixing.Why do ppl think both majors want to go that way?

      A few elections of ppl putting names to their electoral choices might bring Australia back to the centre, but as long as govts appoint their own muppets to AEC,ACCC,security agencies,military,GG etc we just get another arm of another right wing agenda..Be it ALP or LNP.

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      • paul walter July 17, 2016 at 4:41 pm #

        Perhaps we need it more obvious here. In France there are actually terrorists to be reckoned with, to justify the all the militarisation and expense thereof.

        In Turkey, you KNOW there is a coup going on, with the guns and grenades and things,

        Here, the only evidence of terrorism is the massive presence of intelligence/surveillance and its expense and a virtual coup here has been greeted with a bored belch and fart as people turn their heads anew to reality tv, quizzes, soapies, sport, sitcoms, 4 whwwl drives and talent quests.

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        • helvityni July 17, 2016 at 4:55 pm #

          paul, yes but Abbott here is itching to go where there might be something iffy going on…oh no ,not in Australia ,where we have plenty of problems…we want to fight FOREIGN probs…we don’t want people to know that not everything is honkey dory here, do we now…?

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          • Hypo July 17, 2016 at 6:08 pm #

            Disagree.Abbott is keen to bring action here.In fact under him in Howard’s sleazy govt they did just that.They granted Man Monis citizenship.Despite Iran warning them.Despite his know record and behaviour.He got a gun under the watch of our security forces.He was a violent and overt risk to those around him.Then they turned a lone wolf nutter into their reason to poke their noses into all our lives via emails and internet , and appointed military minions across the land.Every move under Abbott was a deranged obsessive one involving a uniform.Same with most of his photo ops.He sought out Top Gun back drops.

            Abbott will be back.He rejected the invite to the latest Mal team party and at the 1st post election meeting he slow clapped reluctantly while the rest whooped and cheered.
            Abbott should be in a padded cell.For life.

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  21. paul walter July 17, 2016 at 6:10 pm #

    Abbott is a nutbag as are many of his colleagues, including the less obviious but immaculately dressed Turnbull and Bjshop.

    The best place for people who take human life lightly would be in a trench fighting off the Taliban, since they think it is such fun for everyone else.

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    • Hypo July 17, 2016 at 6:28 pm #

      +1

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  22. Hypo July 17, 2016 at 9:48 pm #

    One could rightly ask>
    Why can Abbott’s personal black uniformed border Reich allow generations of Australians to suffer the most gruesome of deaths possible,(asbestosis)) while they allow plane arrivals to overstay and steal local jobs and some plane arrivals , like Monis, terrorise Sydney/Australia at will.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-17/asbestos-in-building-materials-slip-into-australia/7636276

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    • paul walter July 18, 2016 at 5:16 pm #

      Yeas and look at the sort of nonsenses people in places of influence peddle, that keeps this nation of sheep anxious.

      https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/video/2016/jul/18/sonia-kruger-on-muslim-migration-to-australia-i-would-like-to-see-it-stop-video

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      • Hypo July 19, 2016 at 9:39 am #

        And ABC Q&A took the side of racial disharmony by giving Hanson a free kick.
        The home grown terror from white anglos is now here to stay.
        Hansons power base will grow enormously from hereon in.She has enable the racist core of Australia.
        No-one will ensure more and rapid radicalisation of Muslim youth than Hanson and her army of haters and racists.
        Well done TBull and Shorten.Leaders my arse.

        Their philosophy must be we need a lot of war before we can experience a little peace.The former is odds on.The latter is growing further away each tick of the clock.Send Hanson to Aceh.

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        • diannaart July 19, 2016 at 12:37 pm #

          As much as I loathe Pauline Hanson and her ilk, I value free speech more.

          Let Hanson face the public spotlight, frequently.

          Given such exposure, provided there is the much vaunted ‘balance’ of participants, her brittle ideas will be brushed aside. Keeping her at a distance, she has far more allure to uninformed and insecure voters.

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          • paul walter July 19, 2016 at 1:19 pm #

            Inclined to agree with diannaart.

            Hypo’s suggestion is the more attractive, but in the end there can only be one solution and that’s continue the hard work of calmly and logically refuting the conservative nonsenses one by one.

            I think the example of Sonia Kruger exposes how neurotic and fear driven a section of our population is ; how rationality is coloured by fear through misinformation. Kruger is a little like MTR, the morals campaigner, you wonder what in the end could reassure such freaked out folk.

            Bolt is another example, lie a little boy lost in high grass, oblivious to where he is and not yet aware that no deliverance due.

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            • diannaart July 19, 2016 at 1:35 pm #

              Please forgive me for prompting your ‘inclination’.

              😛

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  23. Hypo July 19, 2016 at 1:53 pm #

    Going to disagree.Again.The Hansons and Krugers are recruiters , and sadly they will never truly be held to account.They cannot (will not) undo the damage.

    The duplicity of calling out bullying at a school level and then switching the rhetoric to ‘hide it behind the free speech’ clause is indefensible.The calling of politicians dog whistlers on one hand and hounding them down here and elsewhere and then taking a fenced position is telling.We are above hate speech.Those who choose to basket free and hate speech in one basket
    Our apathy in keeping our leaders ‘honest’ has come home to roost.The sowing is over.The reaping begins.

    Holocaust deniers rejoice.

    Neurotic and fear driven won’t get turned around this time.Nor will it shrink.
    Yay!! for free speech.I feel so much safer .Almost “American’ safe, y’all.

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    • diannaart July 19, 2016 at 1:58 pm #

      Fine Hypo, all extremists should be marginalised because it works so well…

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      • Hypo July 19, 2016 at 3:06 pm #

        Good for you.You make a good case for the bloke who attacked Nov Peris to claim free speech.
        There is a vacuum of leadership which has enabled Hanson again.
        You are on that side of the ledger.
        How’s that going for us?
        She is toxic racist scum destroying our community cohesion every time she opens her mouth.Free speech and hate speech are different things.Anybody defending her right to [free] HATE speech has part ownership of the outcome.
        Count me out.

        The ABC’s pathetic addiction to controversies on Q&A is a base opportunism which will add further to the social decay.
        Murdoch would be loving this.Now the ABC feeds into his and the LNPs desires.

        Labor sure dodged that bullet.

        Yay for free speech.

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        • diannaart July 19, 2016 at 3:50 pm #

          “There is a vacuum of leadership which has enabled Hanson again.”

          Yes, I agree.

          “You are on that side of the ledger.”

          No, I am not.

          Not everything can be reduced to a binary.

          Fact; Pauline Hanson is a senator in our government, we have to deal with it. Not easy, nor pleasant but she is there and has people who, for whatever misbegotten reason, support her.

          Ignoring her will not make her go away.

          I would wave a magic wand if I could, but wishing and hoping will not change people’s minds.

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  24. Hypo July 19, 2016 at 5:08 pm #

    Fact; Pauline Hanson is a senator in our government, we have to deal with it.

    Fact your (the political enablers) way of dealing with it has enabled her.
    “Ignoring her will not make her go away.”
    The ‘ignoring’ is exactly what allowed her to re-oxygenate.
    I’m not the one ignoring her,I am calling her out, and saying that political silence and/or opportunism is enabling her.As is allowing hate speech,or justifying her with the bullsh*t excuse she is entitled to say what she wants.
    The wanker who attacked Nova Peris is no different in principle and yet he was rightly charged and convicted.Because he used hate speech.Do you see the hypocrisy and duplicity(binary)yet?
    It really is that simple.As is the excuse being used to defend Hanson et al.

    Please do not say I am ignoring her or even considering we do that.

    Yay for free speech.Just don’t rewrite history.That’s too Howard and LNP for me.

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    • diannaart July 19, 2016 at 6:15 pm #

      Hypo

      I am not writing history – why would you even say that?

      I agree there is more hypocrisy and duplicity going on than many of us can fathom.

      Also what do you suggest to do about Pauline and her ilk? Ban her from QandA where there is at least a chance of rebuttal? Else the Murdocracy is happy to give her as much oxygen as she needs provided it works against progressives (Labor, the Greens and so on) and will only rope her in if she upsets the LNP.

      Else we are talking in circles.

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      • Hypo July 19, 2016 at 6:32 pm #

        What do I suggest?
        How about calling her what she is.A racist hate peddler.That is her status.She was kicking indigenous people in the head and Asians till Islam gave her another string to her bow.She has as much right to air time in Aust media as Deash recruiters get.

        Read what I have continually written Political leaders should have had her in the limelight decrying every one of her claims at every turn.Instead they made her a cult hero.Now Turnbull is kicking the same arse he enabled.
        He took a one sentence swipe after she was set to get elected and expected people to obey.Billy boy smashed her with an invisible whisper.
        Now the entire intellectual space in Australia says she has rights that miraculously politicians on the RWNJ side of the equation are hounded for.She for some reason cannot have her fish shop history used where anothers religious affiliation is a death knell.The duplicity is breath taking.She is ahate peddler.Enabled by the stupid,the opportunistic,but worse the complacent intellectuals keen to see what makes morons tick, and will die fighting for her right to divide us.

        Yay for free speech.Can I have some more please sir?

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      • silkworm July 19, 2016 at 10:36 pm #

        “Also what do you suggest to do about Pauline and her ilk?”

        Mock her. Ridicule her. Make jokes about her. Show her up as being stupid. Dastyari did this on the Q&A panel and it was beautiful to watch. She was livid, and people started laughing at her. It destroyed her credibility, and this made her even more angry.

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        • diannaart July 20, 2016 at 11:01 am #

          Well said, Silkworm.

          We cannot expose the awful truth about Pauline unless she is in clear and visible sight.

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          • Hypo July 20, 2016 at 11:39 am #

            The horse has bolted,the stable is smashed.
            The boat has been missed.
            Wheeling Pauline Pants down out was fine in days of yore.
            She should have been seen as the security risk she is and hounded down for that reason alone.Neither side of govt is interested in harmony.Neither is interested in cohesion.Without half the population disenfranchised neither has relevance.
            Hanson is a problem re created on the back of our core value,our good old race hate heart of Australia.We have never dealt with the guilt of destroying the first Australians or taking full responsibility of it.Not even acknowledging it in our history.The scab has been picked and the raw flesh this time is likely to weep till the lights go out.

            She should never have had an opening.And intelligent people should not be defending her right to spread fear and hate.Bolt was pinged.Why not her?
            Why did Q7A give her so much time?Why did they not condemn the language,ignorance and pure bile?

            I do not defend her right to free hate speech.

            STFU Hanson.You’re a liar,a cretin ,a coward,a toxic racist.A disgrace and blight on our senate/parliament.

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            • diannaart July 20, 2016 at 11:55 am #

              Should this and should that.

              Ideal world; there’d be no Pauline Hansons.

              Pauline Hanson is real and we have to deal with her.

              As Silkworm said, ridicule works best. Telling a person how much you hate them, doesn’t exactly convince a person to a little self-reflection.

              They “don’t like it”.

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              • Hypo July 20, 2016 at 12:10 pm #

                “Pauline Hanson is real and we have to deal with her. ”

                I have duly noted how well your methodology is working.

                Shall we have a Pauline Hanson jokathon?
                Draw caricatures?
                Give her her own chat show?
                Or just keep doing what we are doing now?
                SFA.

                I love how quickly people round on the LN, and yet cut the ALP massive slack,and amaaaazingly, give Hanson even more space.Space to destroy
                She has most people bluffed.The smarter they are the more bluffed they appear to be
                Waleed Ali just showed he is as weak as he is verbose. Muslims in Australia, or anyone ‘looking the part’ will wear more twice the pain now.Hanson won’t need to lift a finger.

                Still ‘crickets’ on why Q&A is so helpful to Hansons cause.

                Those whose prefs flowed to enable Hanson must have serious egg on their conscience. Yay for free speech and warm limp lettuce flailing.

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                • diannaart July 20, 2016 at 12:38 pm #

                  Hypo

                  You are great at whining, not so good at thinking about solutions.

                  Anyone who trys to point out that Hanson was soundly ridiculed on QandA just gets their comments trashed by you.

                  Maybe you should stop expecting easy answers for everything.

                  Maybe you and Pauline should get a room…

                  I dunno… have places to go, books to read…

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                  • Forrest Gumpp (@ForrestGumpp) July 20, 2016 at 1:09 pm #

                    Forty seven years ago today the moon was landed on. By a moon unit, I suppose. But enough of this invective. Just sayin’, probably ‘cos of the avatar.

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                    • Jennifer Wilson July 20, 2016 at 2:41 pm #

                      The moon was landed on. Yes, and look where that’s got us.

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                  • Hypo July 20, 2016 at 2:22 pm #

                    Jesus you are a hypocrite.I have proffered solutions and questioned the failure to act earlier, while you have endorsed the status quo.You’ve made that crystal clear.
                    You say Hanson was rounded on on Q&A.?
                    ROFL

                    Next time you hammer a RWNJ politician I’ll be there to ask you directly for a please explain.Meanwhile keep cracking Pauline jokes.That should suffocate her damage no end.

                    No wonder we get fkd govts.Baaaaaaaaaaa

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                    • diannaart July 20, 2016 at 2:44 pm #

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                    • Hypo July 20, 2016 at 2:45 pm #

                      ^Comment 2.22pm was for Diannart

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              • Jennifer Wilson July 20, 2016 at 2:37 pm #

                Self reflection and Pauline Hanson don’t sound right together, but I could be wrong.

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                • diannaart July 20, 2016 at 2:41 pm #

                  Jennifer

                  Pauline believes that self-reflection is olde worlde speak for mirror.

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            • Jennifer Wilson July 20, 2016 at 2:32 pm #

              You raise points that have been bothering me, Hypo. But no action can be taken against Hanson unless somebody lodges a complaint, as happened with Bolt.

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          • Jennifer Wilson July 20, 2016 at 2:31 pm #

            I agree. Ignoring her seems like agreement with her.

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        • helvityni July 20, 2016 at 11:07 am #

          Sam was good, it was like I was watching a comedy show, plenty of food there for Micallef…

          The Muslim brothers inviting her for Halal lunch was priceless.

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  25. doug quixote July 19, 2016 at 9:28 pm #

    Controversy. Argument. Conflict. Balance.

    I’m all for free speech, but some speech is freer than others. And we – or rather the mass media supposedly providing us with balanced information – do not need to provide a platform for those who expound extreme views. In the name of Balance.

    The solution to bad free speech is better free speech. The alternatives have been tried over the last several thousand years and its ‘success’ is written in blood, the blood of millions.

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    • Hypo July 19, 2016 at 9:36 pm #

      “The solution to bad free speech is better free speech”
      Only if it precedes the inevitable.
      For millennia we have excused inhumanity .
      There is no corner left for the intellectual to hide.And yet the smartest of us still keep insisting on writing epitaphs as a solution.
      Who did not see this coming FFS?
      Who thinks the re-enabling of Hanson is going to end well for anyone?

      Again.Count me out.
      She is a product of those who sat on their hands,or who wanted to use her poison to make ground, more so than those ignorant desperate brainless frustrated dweebs who voted for her.At least they lifted a finger.

      Get some gumboots DQ.

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