When Attorney-General George Brandis declared that everyone has the right to be a bigot, he was, strangely for him, speaking out of his arse.
A bigot is irrationally prejudiced against and intolerant towards individuals and/or groups, without requiring any factual evidence to support her or his bigotry. This excellent Guardian piece by Susan Carland spells out the proposition. My only quibble with Dr Carland is that she writes “facts no longer matter” whereas I would argue that for bigots, facts have never mattered, and never will.
Brandis’s declaration conflates human rights with ignorance, intolerance and irrational prejudice, surely the very characteristics those rights are designed to contest, how odd he doesn’t know that.
When the country’s Attorney-General invites the indulgence and expression of bigotry it’s hardly surprising that we find ourselves entering a period of deep prejudice, expressed by the likes of convicted racist Andrew Bolt, echoed by the likes of television celebrity mother Sonia Kruger (#all mothers are celebrities, I can see that hash tag coming) and Pauline Hanson is enabled to replatform herself in government.
This time around, the bigots are singling out Muslims. It has in the past been the turn of Aborigines, Jews, Chinese, Vietnamese, Indians, single mothers of all nationalities, dole bludgers, those of Middle Eastern appearance, boat people, women… must I go on? Bigots aren’t choosy: they need to hate somebody, it doesn’t much matter who. You have the “right” to do this, says the most senior legal figure in the land. It’s freedom of speech. So knock yourselves out.
Unfortunately, the exercise of free speech does not have as a prerequisite informed and intelligent utterance. If it did there would be a strangled silence from the government benches and all early morning television shows would cease to be.
As this happy fantasy is not likely to eventuate, what are we to do in the face of the ignorant, prejudiced drivel increasingly issuing forth from public microphones? Fight back? March in protest? Invite consultation? Sit down with the haters over tea and scones? Ignore them?
I’d argue that there’s no single solution to contesting bigotry, and that all of the above suggestions might be useful in specific situations. When the citizens of a democracy vote bigots into government it’s a tough challenge fighting them from the top down, and we have to get creative. Psychologically speaking, bigots are generally insecure personalities with low self-esteem: they make themselves feel better by denigrating somebody else: I am not that, therefore I am OK. Those of us opposing bigotry may risk falling into the same trap…it’s complicated.
Ignorance is in ascendence, globally. It’s going to be turbulent. As I think the Dalai Llama [sic] once said, you don’t get peace by hating war. Fasten your seat belts.
No Place For Sheep 
If half of the words and actions in the govt and media aimed at Muslim people, or indigenous people ,were directed at Jewish people there would be open warfare.
If only as much anger was directed at the serial Catholic paedeopoly, or science deniers,or war mongers,or environazis.
There is no sign of soul in either side of govt.All just fiscal f*ckwits lost in space.
Canberra is a synapse free zone.No sign of leadership,vision or humanity.
Our political priorities are our destiny and will make a clear and succinct epitaph for visiting space travellers.
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Ignorance seems to be embedded, doesn’t it?!
I’m not saying anything.
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Proving myself to be a liar, I shall just embed this here for storage. It, as a story, is proving to be very ephemeral on Twitter, causing me to wonder why. If anything comes of it, it may eventually be seen to be tangentially relevant to the process whereby the empowerment of bigots occurs.
The contraction ‘c/lists’ in one of the tweets stands for ‘certified lists’, the marked copies of the electoral rolls used at elections to record vote claims against the names of enrolled electors. All such lists are electronically scanned and collated at some time after the close of polling to produce the list of names of persons who would appear to have failed to vote. That output is, of course, expected to be confidential to the Australian Electoral Commission. That output would be the only source for data-matching in any scam actually targeting apparent non-voters, and its availability to scammers would thus be a cause for concern.
If the story is not just a total beat-up, I am wondering if those involved in its (very minimal) initial reporting have sufficient knowledge of the totality of the electoral process to understand its immense possible significance.
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You can add that conspiracy to the fact the census form this year on retains personal info indefinitely and is being held for whatever purposes beyond harmless stats,as the ‘govt’ wants.
I am therefore going to be a conscientious objector.
If Brandis et al want to ‘get to know what makes us tick’ they should start listening, instead of telling ,rather than compiling a 3d marketing image of our personal lives for thie corporate mates.When I say ‘personal’ I don’t mean private.If you have an IP address you have no privacy.
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What is this conspiracy of which you speak, Hypo? Bernard Keane and Asher Wolf have reported upon a contract under which the security of electoral records has been, seemingly imprudently, outsourced. Chris O’Brien, an ABC reporter in Brisbane, has reported separately upon a purported scam, which if actually occurring and targeting only persons who have failed to vote would appear to depend upon a breach of security or improper use of those very electoral records. I am suggesting there may be a correlation between the two reported events.
I know ‘contract’ and ‘correlation’ are both ‘c’ words like ‘conspiracy’, but we must be careful how we use ‘conspiracy’ because apart from it being a ‘c’ word it is also a ‘trigger’ word, the purpose of which seems in many cases one used to shut down or discredit discussion.
I find the noting of apparent correlations to be generally more facilitative of productive discussion than the all-too-frequent labeling of something challenging or disconcerting with the cop-out of ‘conspiracy’.
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What I mean is I don’t find it ethical to farm out our lives via our data diary footprint .That is what letting ‘others’ baby-sit our electoral integrity is doing.Private data is the new gold rush.If I am to give my time freely, and be fined for not doing it, to provide a commodity to govt, to do what they want with it, without asking my permission what that end is,then they can go fvck themselves.
They can join dots without a census.Pretty sure we can manage our ballot papers too.
The whole TPP and FTA thing shows how voting for a local pollie no longer provides a local representation or lifestyle,ideology or anything else.
Societies and individuals are a subculture of multi-corporates.Pretty much the battery hens of data to make some rich prick richer, and we pay and vote for the pleasure.
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I believe there’s a considerable fine for not filing out the damn form, Hypo.
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$180 I think,
It costs them way more to get the data, and even more to charge me,and prosecute me, and then if they win fine me,so it tells you that this data has willing buyers.
It is public money being wasted to harvest private data, and the retention component is new and as far as telling the public they never really tried.
Do they want that much publicity about the fact they are sleazy operators?
A good dose of civil disobedience would be a good thing to bring this back into the public arena and accountability..
Or perhaps they would prefer a form complete with wizzy wigs and lies to screw up previous data?
Not to mention that if you live ina rural regional area, it could be your local neighbour dropping off and collecting forms.With this new rule, this means your neighbour will get a look look at how you live before the ABS does.Bet your ass the prying is not reciprocal.
It has moved from helpful data to privacy theft in a few short years and combined with the stuff kept by ISPs for Brandis a bridge too far IMHO.
As if the info is kept in house FFS.No thanks.
They will get their fine in cold hard 5c bits.
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Your protest seems to be essentially a one-man campaign and it is difficult to see what you are trying to achieve; or are your efforts part of a larger political campaign, and if so, where is it?
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Yep a lone crusader.My personal data is mine, so on that level it’s a one person fight.Who ‘really’ thinks the census has relevance to us?It is a milking exercise .Just another front for theft.Lets face it,if they (anyone) is arguing what they did way back when,’that the census will help make Oz a better place to live in’ etc, hahahaha.America and China own our asses.Census them.
Seriously we don’t even have the right to ask that our personal details be protected on a nationwide survey, anymore?
Hello hackers,govt mates with cheque books,Murdoch rags and anyone else wanting peoples last bastion of privacy>>>> without asking.
They may as well hack our phones and emails and follow our every move.Oh wait…
The slippery slope is way behind us.
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Interested in ways to fill in Census, but keep name to myself.
TPTB do not need my name to govern. Besides they don’t listen to the likes of me either.
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The fine is described as being $180 PER DAY OF NON-COMPLIANCE.
Bully, bully, bully! Threat, threat, threat!
The linked article is most informative.
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Read it.
$180 per day??
So if there is no option to boycott without said penalty I intend to write to notify my intention not to do it.Beforehand of course.
That decision to opt out is a final decision.Not a ramping up of threats to capitulate decision.
I won’t be blackmailed or bullied for giving away my life to the lowest bidders, especially when my govt does the stealing and selling of that private life.
I won’t pay more than $180, and that will take a long time to extract, so jail here I come if need be.
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Well, that’s odd, Forrest. And a little unnerving.
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It could seem that there is some interest in suppressing this story. What I am about to embed may not rate in comparison to the current apparent attempt at Twitter censorship re #DNCLeaks in the US, but ultimately it may amount to the same thing, the rigging of electoral results.
It is my contention that much of the focus that has been created upon expressions of bigotry, and the empowerment of those pandering to such, may well derive from an un-noticed manipulation of the electoral process amplifying a very much smaller real voter base.
Thereby also explaining the volume of misdirected invective being heaped upon more presumed notional supporters having returned an under-performing government than actually did.
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Just say it FG.It’s rigged.
Imagine electronic voting.It will be run by Blatter from FIFA.
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Not without some evidence, Hypo. Imagine the damage to the credibility of respondents done if something like what I am about to embed proves not to have been based in fact.
I hope I’m wrong, but without some authentication of this (very articulate) letter’s claims, I’m calling (damaging) BS as to its factual basis. It may well be the work of some well-intentioned zealot, but if proved to be a misrepresentation will have done more harm than good in the fight to resist the US ‘health’ model’s installation.
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Or, if you prefer, Thomas Drake’s recommendation for a longer read:
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For the record:
In macrocosm. Freeing us to focus upon the more local microcosm, which appears to have seen something emerge within the time during which the outcome of elections in Australia can be challenged on the Electoral Commissioner’s own motion in the Court of Disputed Returns.
Now, where is Chris O’Brien’s, Bernard Keane’s, and Asher wolf’s hint of a huge (suppressed?) Australian story going?
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For those who do not get the obliquity, this is the Twitter side of the opening embedding:
A proofreader’s tongue-poke at the deliberate barely-detectable malapropism involved in the use of the word ‘Llama’, as in ‘Dalai Llama’, flagging a fabricated or mis-attributed quote in the concluding paragraph of our host’s blog.
For the information of viewers while we wait in the deathly silence surrounding the skeletal reporting of the scam ‘Failure to Vote’ notices for our now-prodded MSM to provide/push for more information.
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Dairy Llama?
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Pauline has now graduated to her third tier of hating: first it was directed to indigenous people, then the Chinese, now it’s the Muslims’ turn..
Howard ‘learned’ from her, and now Brandis endorses ‘Paulinism’, Channel Nine gets help from Sonya, ratings are going up…
Who needs Biggest Losers for entertainment; the masses have, Pauline and Sonya. Go girls, might even help our tourism…
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Haters gotta hate, Helvi.
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Free to be bigots.
Free to be a bully.
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Like any populists, there is always a kernel of truth in their pronouncements. Their bigoted statements obscure the truth, that Islam is the creed most inimical to our western way of life. It goes beyond religion; it is an extremist ideology wrapped in religious claptrap.
It is possible to interpret Islam more benignly, and to their credit many Muslims and even many of their scholars do so interpret it. But moderates are always at risk of being themselves targeted by the extremists, as the recent eruption known as Daish shows the world.
Is Islam even slightly compatible with a modern western pluralist democracy?
The jury is still out on that one.
But one thing is certain, if Islam becomes a majority or a large minority in a country, they will insist on Sharia law. Woe betide any woman who seeks to flaunt their dress conventions, for starters. Will burqas be optional? Yes, but if you want to go outside purdah you’d better wear one. It may still be possible to educate women, but they had better not flaunt that education by speech or deed.
No religion at all is the best case, but Islam is the worst case.
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“But one thing is certain, if Islam becomes a majority or a large minority in a country, they will insist on Sharia law.”
Jackie Kelly said exactly the same thing ten years ago. Presently they are at 2% of the population, and they’ll be the majority any day now. Sharia law is just around the corner, and we will all soon be forced to eat halal bacon.
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Mmmmmmmmmm…halal bacon…. yum almost as good as Kosher roast pork.
😛
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Did I mention Australia?
I don’t think so. Don’t be so parochial, ‘worm.
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And the Christian fundamentalists will forbid us birth control and abortion and sex before marriage.
You are right, though, DQ, extremist ideology together with religious zealotry is entirely incompatible with western pluralist democracy.
I don’t see us in danger at this point, however.
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Christian fundamentalism is what personifies America.It is an over-inflated power-base reaching beyond the numbers they really represent.Even the moderates in govt (here and there) dance to their tune.Listen to Bidens rant yesterday.
All god,guns and racist white anglo religious chest thumping painting a bigger target on our backs.
We don’t have Americas backs, we are the cannon fodder on the front line in any Asian conflict.
The sooner we piss off all foreign bases and foreign port ownership, the better.
We need a constitutional challenge on all religious influence on govt and legisaltion must be forced to pass a secular inclusive test before it is eligible.
Labor and LNP are dominated by so called servants of god.
Their back doors are always open to bullying christian nutjobs, and I mean that in every conceivable interpretation.
Enter stage right>George Christiansen QLD numpty dumpty. demanding his way on super.
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We could begin by withdrawing exemptions for discrimination from religions, then taxing them
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Concerned citizens on the “Islamic encroachment” , please take a look at the power and influence of Christianity in Australia.
From prayers before Question Time in our parliament to subsidising schools, to possessing very loud voices on the private and personal lives of others, for example, abortion, SSM, divorce and there’s more (look it up).
I understand the percentage of Christians is claimed as 61% of a population estimated at 24.5 million. Muslims factor between 1.5% and 1.8% of Australia’s population depending on source.
More prominent, scary Christians as well; George (no irony intended) Christiansen, Fred Nile, George Pell, Cory Bernardi, all prominent with significant power and voice and there’s more (look it up). Equivalent Muslims…. I’ll get back on that one, there must be a few, religion being what it is…
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Laughable prospect isn’t it.
Christianity should be described,defined and adhered to in and of the common law, before any of those dodgy statistical claim is made.
In other words either you practise its tenets in your normal activities ,you attend the ceremonial events on a regular basis,or you are in some way of and for the church in a tangible way.As it is the ABS and parasitic govts claim not any other religion = Christainaity for the purposes of controlling our agenda and destiny.
Those in power claiming to be Christians:
Do not behave like Christians
Do not represent the electoral constituents as the priority, which is what they are employed to do.
The corruption of our politics by god botherers is unconstitutional and continues apace.
If Kruger, Christensen, Brandis,Hanson and Abbott et all all claim to be Christians then being “a brain dead lying racist tosspot” is an “exciting” part of christianity I must have missed out on learning.
What these people are saying in fact is that their own communities aspirations and values are incompatible with their narrow bastardised version of a parochial brand of exclusive sub cult christianity.
Brandis is the AG, he is the head law officer.And yet no-one has been more damaging to the office and its role.No-one has argued more against the laws that already exist, or the society the people want ,more than he.He thrives on divisiveness, like his cohorts.
Christian God is the default position for anyone claiming to be Australian.
White default skin colour.
Male default gender.
As a mother Kruger doesn’t seem to mind all that.
Is that because wealth ,bigotry or ignorance is her default position?
Or All of the above?
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A: All of the above.
Being Christian, self-entitled, power hungry, keeping one’s hair tinted and autocratic is complicated – not much room for thinking things through.
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Yes, yes & yes, diannaart
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If by “us” you mean Australia, yes; no immediate threat. Multiculturalism has been a greater success here than almost anywhere else. Islam in Australia has been relatively tame so far, and the woes of Nigeria and Syria are a world away. Thankfully too, our nearest large neighbour, Indonesia, has a brand of relaxed Islam.
My main post was concerned with the world order and future generations. My consolation is that I won’t be around to see it.
(DQ sighs.)
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“Islam in Australia has been relatively tame so far, ”
Now that red dog is on the scene you can kiss harmony goodbye.
You may yet get a front row seat before the perch breaks you free.
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Neither will I, but it’s small consolation.
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I think I know where you are coming from. T’is sad when you think the best you can find out of this morass is that you might miss the worst consequences of it through encroaching mortality.
I agree that multiculturalism works well enough and and we all grew up with some form of it, since migration is a defining characteristic in our history. Many of my long term friends are people I went to school with who arrived with the great post WW2 migration from Europe to our country.
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Pretty confident if people are alive and cognisant for the next 2 decades they will see a lot of the scary shit.
Especially given the rate of (addiction to) growth,the spread of denial /apathy/ greed, and the current headlong push to tear down the buffers we have between us and the worst case scenarios.
Eg Todays productivity commission media release intimates that nature is a nuisance to agriculture and should be devalued accordingly.,
Apparently we should allow GM to dominate the ag landscape .
(Landscape owned by???? No need to know)
We should trust foreign safety testing of ag chemicals on our food and crops, without any local independent testing.
(Consumers already consume unknown amounts of these chemicals/antibiotics anyway)
Looming TPP and FTA means that countries like the USA ,China and ME countries control our destiny.In regards to Bidens world view we are just the cannon fodder,The place where they park the military, or raze the landscape.
Nope, I don’t think we will miss all the actions and outcomes.(By a long shot.)
*[That’s not even considering where the nutjobs in govt are taking us via racist divisive hate and fear driven govt.]
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Yes, those are the sort of real world problems neglected at best, spurned at worst as most inconvenient, that provide seemingly insoluble problems for our parochial politicians who become more mediocre as the factions control who is bootlicker enough to follow a narrow factional, let alone party line.
Meanwhile the plunder by vested interests continues unabated.
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The last comment said it all…”ignorance is in the ascent, globally”.
Carland’s article got to a very core fact that is the continued Western attitude that “others” must live up to “our” standards, as if we were somehow sole bearers of virtue. Does this attitude not seem of the nineteenth century, out of “Jane Eyre”, where at one stage protagonists are struck by a missionary zeal to head to Asia to convert the heathen, probably at the cost of their own lives?
We have to get past this notion that we are intrinsically virtuous and the rest mere clients, should we decide, in our infinite mercy, to hear the pleading voices a real world where billions live like dogs, or would that mean people might have to check out a few history books and discover the real reasons why so much of the world is miserable?
Brandis, Kruger, Hanson and Bernardi all represent denialism at its most paralysing.
Of that group, Brandis should know better, but persists with his knowing destructiveness toward all that he once claimed to be worthwhile. He alone of them would realise the full extent of the harm he does, yet he seems powerless to stop himself.
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I’m somewhat sickened by the situation, PW. I have no idea what to say next.
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Sufficiency unto the day:
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Ewwwww Yuckkie!
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Bring on Trump.Let’s get the party started.
Their choice.
His rise should see the USA flush themselves down their own shitter.
Arrogant cultures so oblivious to their own massive faults over such sustained periods always experience a self fulfilled prophecy outcome.
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Forrest
I very nearly vomited, then my artist’s critical eye noted how well Trump’s complexion has been captured in his portrait.
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Wy do Boris Johnson & Donald Trump look so alike?
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Same Petri dish ?
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I was thinking algae spawn, however, there may well be the hand of man involved…
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Algae is useful.
The painting of Trump indicates the hand of a man.
Boris is a bumbling buffoon,whereas Trump is a rabid megalomaniac.(Not unlike Abbott.)
Same dish again.
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Anything can happen if you don’t clean out the Petri dish…
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“Brandis warns people do not jump to conclusion and label all extreme acts of violence as an act of terror.Speaks of unnecessary and avoidable alarmism and community fear.
Re-iterates >Labeling non terrorist acts as terrorism and scaring the populous is his jurisdiction.”
Reminder George,
It was your hero and mentor, the ex PM Abbott, who generously offered up the DIY formula for ‘how to be a terrorist’ with his famous mobile,knife and flag recipe.Where was your voice of reason then?
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I believe when a country like Australia has free speech even the bigots can have their say. To me it just means that those of us who don’t actually blame a billion and a half people for two or three terrorists in our country which houses 500,000 Muslims, just don’t listen to what is said, or don’t react to what a bogan or a grogan might say. We understand that people like Abbott like Hansen are simply not worth listening to.
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Except that what they say has effectively wrecked peace,harmony and civility, and they get away with it.Wrong is wrong.Apathy lets the wrong get away with it.
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There is always a sense to retaliate to the crap that they put out, but I find it much more satisfying to put out healthy thought, look at it from a viewers prospective. What would you rather read their bullshit, or counter arguements. I googled AIM network and found a gold mine.
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People keep missing my point.These racist scum should be challenged often and early and we should demand our leaders make it clear they have no place in making the laws of the country.This should happen every day,nt in the last throes of an election.Nor should we do a backflip after the election and use mealy mouthed language about anyone espousing ethnic cleansing.
The community is now debating about the best approach to the damage,whereas no prevention strategy has been evident for years.The LNP is on the same page as Hanson and the ALP is as weak as piss on it.
“We may not do business” etc.
A fair society would never find themselves in this position IF we had leaders.IF either side had a ‘states person’ in their murky ponds.
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Indeed!!!
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I agree, townsville, trying to silence people only makes them martyrs. Challenging their views is the answer.
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OK,OK,
Who stole the real George Brandis?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-24/george-brandis-warns-against-using-word-terrorism-too-loosely/7656092
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What I find challenging is that Brandid is a QC barrister, which suggests he should have a brain similar to The Rt Hon E.G.Whitlam QC, however he never displays such a brain, in fact opinion on him is usually: a bully, intimidation etc.
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There are people who never fail to astound that they can manage to walk and talk at the same time, let alone become highly qualified in anything.
Learning is an opportunity to open one’s mind not clamp it shut.
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Lawyers (especially QCs) often specialise in narrow areas of expertise. Brandis specialised in trade practices, so if you want an opinion on monopoly behaviour or restraint on trade, he’s your man. Anything else . . . he’s pretty well as useful and well informed as any layman.
Gough was in another class altogether.
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Accurate media,dog whistle first.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/press-council-adjudication-20160722-gqbbzt.html
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“Although the original decision to publish the article was deeply regrettable, given the subsequent steps taken by the publication, including its publication of critical articles and letters, the Council does not consider that there was a failure to provide adequate remedial action.
Accordingly, there was no breach in this respect.”
No breach, but damage has been done and will continue to ripple across our lives in so many ways we cannot predict.
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Yes as George has said (repeatedly) lately, such permanent community harm by ‘manufactured evidence’ via racist bigots is not the job of the media.This is a RWNJ mandate.
Enter Hanson.She will say what the article did, but with impunity and a pat on the back from the LNP ‘cos’ 500,00 (questionable) votes.The 2 big parties who enabled her wear the blame from hereon in .
The law is protecting (and changing more in that direction) those whose rhetoric is risking our security most.In effect is the extreme right not fuelling radicalisation on 2 fronts?
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Christ,they’re wheeling out entitled dinosaurs now.Anything to save the brand,eh?
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/morning-shows/kerrianne-slams-appalling-backlash-to-brave-sonia-kruger/news-story/f4f6459967c270e4a512911d37160c42
In the article Kruger is quoted again(day after her immigration speech) >
“I acknowledge my views yesterday may have been extreme. The reaction overnight in the papers, online and via social media demonstrates that there are a myriad of opinions in Australia which I actually appreciate. It is a hugely complex and sensitive issue. It’s an issue with no simple answer. And it’s an issue that cannot be fully discussed in a short televised segment,” she said.
How strange ‘mummy Kruger’,the day before it was black and white and manifestly simple to her.So simple she demanded a ban based on her world view and entitled position
Yet when the shit hits the fan (massive damage done) it becomes,sensitive and complex.
Proving emphatically she is no way fit for purpose to be a commentator on anything,just like Eddie Maguire.
She could restore her cred with an apology to the community she divided and the innocent people she slurred.Methinks no Aussie Hollywood types will be doing that in a hurry.
(sound of crickets and back patting continues)
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Looks like police recruit bullies and bigots ‘majoring’ in inhumane treatment of prisoners, to rival Guantanamo.The NT case confirms the gross pattern in WA and QLD.
Waiting for Sonia Kruger to howl her objections wide and wild.
4 Corners discovery will be tip if the iceberg for sure.
I wonder why the img of a hooded restrained kid,vanish from the ABC Facebook site so quickly??
Political interference or legal reasons>
Please explain, Aunty.
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The whole country is reeling. The government can glad hand billions over to billionaires, but social infrastructure is deliberately collapsed by peculiarly mean spirited minds out of a Dickens novel to fund the first objective wtf?
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