Caretaker Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull yesterday blamed an alleged “scare campaign” by Labor concerning LNP threats to Medicare, for the swing against the government in the election results thus far.
Caretaker Attorney -General George (Bookcase) Brandis blamed Twitter for the alleged denigration of political discourse that apparently contributed to the government’s disappointment. Which is a bit rich coming from the man who declared that everyone has the inalienable right to be a bigot and thinks meta data is the address on an envelope not its contents, but whatever.
Caretaker Immigration Minister Peter Dutton (known as the Brussel Sprout or Mr Potato Head, either way it’s a vegetable) blamed unions for his slide in popularity in the Queensland seat of Dickson.
Several other ministers, including Julie Bishop and Scott Morrison, also blamed Labor’s “scare tactics” for the government’s fall from grace. Some have even blamed the stupidity of voters, a self-defeating attribution of responsibility one would think.
The complete absence of the media from the LNP’s jaundiced, wounded, blaming gaze is remarkable. It tells me that I was right to detect overwhelming bias in their favour from almost every media outlet including, unfortunately, sections of the ABC.
Tony Abbott, that desiccated piece of hyena scat, did obscene things with a sizzled sausage and left early to plot his next thrust for LNP leadership and deja vu all over again.
Such is the arrogance of these entitled drongos that it does not, for one moment, enter their drongo consciousness that they might have alienated voters all by themselves. It has to be somebody else’s fault.
The inability to listen to criticism is a boring characteristic in an individual. It’s boring because such people are in significant ways stunted. There’s nothing more valuable than a bit of criticism: in the emotionally mature it provokes thought and inspires the birth of change, and as I quoted a few days ago, he/she who isn’t busy being born is busy dying. The LNP is busy dying, and it has been for quite some time.
I’m struggling to recall a government that has made quite such a spectacular and total cockup as has this one. I’m not referring to unforgivable decisions such as taking us to war on the spurious platform of non-existent weapons of mass destruction, or taking us to an election based on the imagined threat of a few miserable, hounded and tormented people attempting to escape intolerable circumstances, but rather the internal clusterfucks that have rent the LNP’s fabric in ways that make the ALP’s internecine strife of a few years ago look pretty average, really.
And let us not forget that despite the ALP’s leadership debacles, they still got phenomenal amounts of legislation through. This cannot be said for the LNP, which has yet to resolve the 2014 budget.
However, the LNP is maintaining some consistency, you have to give them that much. They’ve blamed Labor ever since they took office, so there’s a three-year precedent. They’ve barely missed a beat in their blaming, making a smooth transition to blaming the ALP for the current election debacle and no doubt whatever the outcome, they’ll continue to blame Labor without so much as a hiccough.
This is, really, their area of expertise. Good governance? Not so much.
No Place For Sheep 
Agree with everything you say about the Coalition, but let us not forget that whichever of the two bumbling aggregations of ineptitude stumbles into power this time around, they will still keep on treating refugees like criminals and driving them to self-harm. despair and in some cases suicide, in our hideous Pacific gulags. They bring shame on our country, the pair of them. I hope both parties go through hell while they wait for the AEC to finish the counting. And I wish, after 8 weeks of their mind-numbing infantile argle-bargle, they would just STFU while they wait and give us a bit of respite. But I imagine that will be too much to expect.
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Yes, Arthur, I know & agree with you. We are gradually eroding the two party stranglehold I believe, and until it’s gone ALP is the lesser of the two evils, IMO.
Also I hold more hope for a capacity to adapt to change in the ALP than I do in the calcified LNP. I could be wrong. Time will tell.
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Sorry Jennifer, I call both of them out for what they are – deliberate and only barely-apologetic child-abusers. Admittedly their refugee policies are what they are for different reasons (LNP for nothing but pure raw political advantage, ALP because the LNP has bashed them so hard and for so long on this issue that they just want it to go away).
But in the end, they’re both doing the same stuff. It’s illegal, immoral and thoroughly vomit-inducing. Penny “Butter-wouldn’t-melt-in-mouth” Wong the other night on ABCTV. Her child lives in well-heeled luxury in a caring family. How can she live with what her party does to the children of refugees? Besides the fact that she shared the screen with the odious Scomo Happy-Clappy, who needs no further comment from me. I couldn’t watch either of them, and had to turn the TV off and go to bed.
If ALP doesn’t have the guts to stand up for what’s right, I’ll call them out as being guilty by association. It drives me mad that I have to number every box on the House of Reps ballot paper, so that eventually my vote will trickle down to either ALP or LNP.
A pox on them both. This mindless cruelty has been going on now since 2001. In fact the ALP really started it back in 1989 under Hawke and Gerry Hand. Just how long to we have to wait for humanity to prevail?
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Yes, it’s time people remember that all the evil racist anti-refugee ”policies” were inflicted on people by the ALP. Margaret Reynolds was in the government of the day and two MP’s rejected the prison crap before that supposedly ”left” wing Hand got his hand on it. He had help from the other lefties – Bolkus, Kerr, Laurie Ferguson and other left wing racists.
And Gillard was nominally left but really further right than Ghenghis Khan and a racist to the very core of her being.
When confronted with a desperate Iraqi doctor whose family were stuck across the road from the Russian Embassy in Baghdad (and Sabean Mandaean to boot) who pleaded with him to get Ruddock to help him she didn’t hear him and her fucking hair did not move.
That red helmet she wears is the colour of her racist soul.
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Nothing I’d disagree with there, Marilyn.
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Is there an underlying ‘religious’ theme in the ‘left wing racism’ in the ALP?
Just asking.
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“Lesser of 2 evils” is pure goatshit.Such attitudes got us here,in the first place.
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We have to have a government. The Greens can’t get one up, neither can anybody other than two major parties. So we are stuck with the lesser of two evils, however marginal difference might be. What else do you suggest Hypo?
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If the Greens can’t get one up then maybe it’s time to give the sex party a go?
Sorry couldn’t resist it*-)
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Gah
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I have suggested it several times,JW.Short term let the LNP have this current mess,then Labor reform(cough cough LOL) and then a Labor Green alliance after the SHT Fan.
.And less of the apologia for Labor every pre and post election and the old “less of two evils cop out’.
If ALP supporters have not expressed their disdain loud and often to the local ALP branch,member or faction central,(at least since Gillard if not when Rudd was factionally eviscerated) then it is pretty much game over, anyway.
In short the ALP is a twin of the LNP who both have a nutjob factions pushing our community further right.
The good show of the ALP in many seats where the greens did not do so well pretty much proves the heartland of Labor is bereft these days anyway.Because if the ALP supporters were disillusioned and went somewhere else to vote, where TF was it?If the disillusioned ALP voters gave a toss the greens would win the primary vote more often.Where does that leave Australia as a compassionate society?
Good question.
Until Labor resembles themselves Labor should be banned from using the name any longer.
Our workforce rural,manufacturing,trades was built on immigrants FFS.
Many were refugees.
Howard started the end of the fair go.Labor finished the job under Gillard.
BTW : Shorten has sold his membership and workers out,(In the same way Gillard sold out on humanity to lurch right for a few votes) That much has been proven, so DQs defence is moot.I doubt this was the only time.
There was a time when Labor folk respected accurate records of history.Now they just make stuff up,like their twin.
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You may not have noticed, but Abbott and then Turnbull have been the Prime Ministers for the last 3 years.
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So fucking what, whose racist evil policies do you think they are using? The only thing Morrison changed with the type of visa, everything else is ALP including ALP supporting border farce 100%
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John Howard’s, of course.
No amendments to them were possible in Labor’s six years.
The electorate believes that the Boats have been Stopped, and that it was Abbott/Morrison who did it.
Good luck with trying to persuade them otherwise.
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No you dickhead clown, the High court found that the offshore imprisonment of people by us was illegal when they shut down the evil Malaysia deal so the racist twin bitches Gillard and Roxon went around it and removed the country, all human rights and made any crime the minister wanted to commit would be legal, even killing.
Your blind fuckwittery is really fucking tiresome Dough
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That is not correct. Malaysia was not a signatory to the Convention and without amendments to the Immigration Act the government was beyond its power to attempt to implement the Solution.
And speaking of tiresome . . .
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That’s true about Malaysia as I recall.
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I do not fucking apologise for Labor Hypo. That’s insulting. I especially was critical of Gillard.
Neither do I have any control at all over who gets to govern this time, so advocating *giving the senate mess to the LNP* means nothing. I can’t do that, you can’t do that. We have one vote each.
My preference is a hung parliament this time, as I’ve said all along.
Apologising for Labor my arse.
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Can’t think of a time you ever did and I sure as hell don’t – I think the cartel parties need to be thrown out and get some real decent people in parliament.
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I believe we’re in the process of doing that. It’s glacial progress.
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Actually I was going to put a disclaimer in there, re your views and articles, perhaps I should have.
Even if you had run the ALP apologia line, the fact is you you provide a platform where we can see how entrenched and dominant that apology/excuse/justify/deny factor is.
The majority of thinking labor ppl,[still with them ] seem to have SFA problem allowing or enabling the status quo.
The unrecognisable destination where Australia is headed,Hanson can have.She is 20 yrs ahead of the game by way of the growing underlying cultural shift from left to middle and now speed of light to the right.
Monsters like her cannot hatch without a sound incubator .
We have it in spades.
Australia has become worst of QLD .
When white supremacists can march unimpeded in the streets and commit violent acts, without police batting an eyelid, and where the likes of her can make religious face coverings illegal we are well past the post.
Where is the political leadership from either of the 2 big parties?
Didn’t we have a cabinet minister on climate change once?
Population?
Labor chose to create them for the right reasons, and backed down because they let fear and bullying push them around.
The same partyy who has the thuggish CFMEU , and Mr Brave Howes,capitulated on a couple of serious portfolios impacting on the entire community.
A Royal Commission into Islam.Yeah, that’s going to solve all OUR problems.
I still cannot accept that people who know better have not been serial offenders at allowing the ALP to fall off the edge.Try as a I might,’maybe next time’ ” better than them” and ‘lesser of two evils ‘ has lost its ability to arouse me politically.
In less than a decade the ALP has blamed the greens,the voters,the media,the LNP,the refugees for getting on boats and many more handy whipping boys.
But what has been invisible in their arsenal has been sticking to their core values, allowing their membership a full voice, and any attempt to call out the pseudo union bosses with brown paper bag poisoning.
The criticism in the wider community of what the ALP has become,has the familiar aroma of wide mouthed frogs, and the audio qualities of a distant solo cricket.
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For as long as we keep saying “oh, the Greens can’t form government”, we will continue to create a self-fulfilling prophecy. For as long as we stick with what we’ve always had, we’ll always be what we’ve always been.
Change requires WORK, Jennifer. And commitment. And a willingness to put oneself out there and take risks – social, personal, financial.
I’ve been watching this ongoing and seemingly never-ending bipartisan refugee policy disaster develop from a little cyst on our Australian polity in the 1990s through the malignant growth it became in the early 2000s to the vile all-consuming cancer it is now, eating our very heart away.
And I’ve stood up and denounced it, working voluntarily for years for human rights organisations and putting myself right out there on the edge. When I meet people who say they vote Liberal or Labor I ask them right up front, do you know what the party you vote for is doing to refugees? What’s the MATTER with your party, and what’s the MATTER with YOU?
I’ve lost friends. But I’ve also gained friends, who changed their way of thinking about this issue, and acknowledged that this has been going on for 27 years now, and asked themselves, just how long is long enough?
How many years of refugee misery will be enough to convince you, Jennifer, and all your readers, to stop voting for the two old-party child-abusers? 27 years not enough? Then how many years? 30? 40? 50? How many?
If we continue to elect venal fools and child-abusers, we’ll continue to be governed by venal fools and child-abusers.
How long, guys? How long?
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I believe we are in the process of that work, Arthur. I share most of your exasperation and distress.
Nothing will give the Greens government in the foreseeable future. They & others can only incrementally access influence in parliament. At the same time, people like Hanson & Nile and Bernardi also sit in parliament. This is a democracy and it will take more than my lifetime to bring about the changes we need.
There’s nothing to be done Arthur, other than casting our vote, and doing whatever work we can to undermine the status quo.
I do not trust Di Natale on the matter of off-shore detention. He’s taking the Greens in a whole other direction, IMO, and I’m wary of him.
You don’t have to convince me of anything. We’re on the same page.
Don’t give up.
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* Hanson people in the next parliament: 2, perhaps 3.
* Nile people in the next parliament: 1.
* Bernardi people in the next parliament: 1.
* Greens people in the next parliament: probably 10.
If that’s not a how-to-vote card, I don’t know what is.
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The Greens may well one day be a governing party. They aren’t today. Their usefulness is in being enough of a presence to keep the major parties accountable & block unjust legislation. I don’t know how difficult that will be in the new Senate.
I’m a realist Arthur. This is a lengthy process of chipping away at a hegemonic culture. Feminists have been fighting patriarchy for more than a hundred years and we’re still not done by any stretch of the imagination.
I don’t know why you assume I’m not a Greens voter.
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I get the sense the Greens are dead-set ambitious on becoming a major party and are incrementally working on their capacity to govern in their own right. I’m not sure this would be a possibility as long as Labor remains viable though as they will always split the progressive vote – and it may be the case that they were looking a little shaky for a while there and boosted the Greens’ confidence enough to make them start thinking that maybe they could actually do this thing… though Labor seems to have bounced back.
The incarceration of asylum seekers saddens me no end, but at the same time I don’t think that’s grounds to support the Greens in the Lower House as this would effectively be casting them as a single-issue party. I’m not convinced the Greens are capable of governing yet, and while I appreciate their presence in the Senate I’m not about to support a protest vote for them in the Reps. I’d rather continue to encourage a situation where Labor can change its policies and still be electable…
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I’m pissed off with Labor for refusing an alliance with the Greens.
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Why would they deal with a superior brand (albeit no longer a truly environmental advocacy party) when they can deal with a red mullet groper?
This devious Labor circus is about ‘looking better’ than the other mob, while actually being equally as bad,or morally worse.
And on One Nation,Shorten has completely missed the credibility boat.He did not call her out.
So from hereon in, he (and faux ALP) has no moral/political/ethical right to bag TBull if HE or the LNP forms govt and deals with Hanson.
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When I say form govt with Hanson, I mean form a minority in the HoR relying on One Braincell to allow supply.
As for your idea Samjam, Turnbull would be assassinated and they would never find the shooter, such would be the length of the list of enemies.
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I’m pissed off with myself for not suggesting to Bill Shorten that instead of going on the offensive he should have gently approached Mr T and convinced him that if he joined the Labor Party then he could form a majority, circumvent the bonkers plebiscite, and escape the pressure from the conservative dementors to pretend to be someone he isn’t.
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He is not and shame on you for saying so. Just because the moron media tried to claim he was during the week doesn’t make it true.
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Is that addressed to me?
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I just tracked down the comment you’re responding to Marilyn.
Is there some imperative of which I’m unaware that states i must support Di Natale because he’s Green? Like women should support women cos vaginas or something?
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Yeah and mostly dicks support Hanson…
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“For as long as we keep saying “oh, the Greens can’t form government”, we will continue to create a self-fulfilling prophecy. For as long as we stick with what we’ve always had, we’ll always be what we’ve always been.”
Cue the ‘we will fix Labor next time cavalcade?
Despite the shrinking choice.I also had to tweak my greens card in the lower house,greens in the senate.
But equally we cannot keep breeding humans at the rate we are.Everyone knows, no-one says it.All we get is ‘educate 3rd countries women’.Too late for that.The first world MUST and should lead the way on dialogue and action.
WE fuel the horror of wars and yet slam the door behind us.
We have space for refugees in the landscape but not in our minds or hearts.
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I think you’ll find that we *can* and *will* keep breeding Hypo. Gender equality will have some effect but a choice as personal as having kids is something that argumentation is never going to change very much. In a sense it is too late for the world – humans will change the climate and biodiversity of the planet dramatically, but ultimately my question is “so what”? The state of the world circa 200 years ago doesn’t have any inherent claim to existence. It just happened – and tragically for us it will just keep happening. It would be great if humanity valued as much as we David Attenborough acolytes do, but it just doesn’t, so all we can do is fight our corner and try to mitigate the effects where we can, and tell ourselves that in a billion years from now people will have wiped themselves out and nature will re-establish the dominance of non self-conscious life forms. We’re just tiny dots on an endless timeline…
(not my phrase BTW)
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“nd tell ourselves that in a billion years from now ”
I think your keyboard may have sticky zero key.
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Nup, our influence on the world’s ecology will still be repercussing in a million years, even if we’re not. It’s actually not that long of a time.
I sincerely hope we’ll have settled our infighting by then in any case!
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Our human species probably has a couple of centuries left.
The planet might be here in a billions years,.
But believe me, I have seen what overstocking does and the outcomes are not pretty.In most cases, By the time you see the problem you miss the window of opp to fix it.
And if you think we are going to have a human species religious epiphany and turn our back on the hate for our differing physical social ideological differences we have I am going to disappoint you.
As can be seen here,there is more energy being spent (on most on social media etc,) excusing political pragmatism as a worthy substitute for humanitarian or ecological advocacy in our political footy teams.
She’ll be right mate.
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“I have seen what overstocking does and the outcomes are not pretty”.
Do tell! Have you worked on a live animal export boat perhaps? Or Dick Smith??
And by infighting I mean between like minded people… which I’d hoped would be obvious. We all know the Hansonites et al are sub-human – though I have to admit that if I were to lose my bloke-to-bloke virginity then Cory Bernardi’s love canal would be among my first preferences!
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That is one issue. There are a dozen other important issues where Labor is clearly the better choice.
Keep working for the refugee issue – a dripping tap can wear away the hardest stone.
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How does the dripping tap go with cluster bombs,suicide bombers,and the events at our detention centres.Tell the desperate to wait til the rock has dissolved grasshopper.
You certainly have big nuts when it comes to justifying the fwit poisonous vipers Labor has become for a power grab, and to steal or plagiarise LNP (nay QLD) policy.
Never seen anyone so apologetic for this brand of ALP.
You a lost cause, but sadly you’re not alone DQ and the very attitude has wrecked a once great party.
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A dripping tap is all you have.
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Calcified LNP is correct. ABC coverage of Malcom’s Wentworth hotel party just after they had listened to Bill Shorten’s speech, the commentator said that at the part of the speech where Medicare was mentioned there was a barrage of heckling and booing. At Liberal rallies in the 1970’s they were attacking the poor and the working class in exactly the same mindless manner with the same vehemence.
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We do however need to build a popular party of the left, something along the lines of a workers party, with well educated people who are not afraid to admit that they too are working people.
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It’s true, tertiary educated are mostly PAYE these days – no secured tenures any more.
Unless you’re in the 1% – you’re just another schmuck.
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Which means the boot is on your neck. tutors and lecturers are beaut with heavy workloads, these days working in environments where neoliberal fanatics; Deans and others with ideological differences with most arts/ humanities social sciences specialists.
Such an ugly feature of recent times, the persecution of academics (Paul Frijters at Club Troppo is the latest example) and journalist who still do broadsheet rather than Telegraph journalism.
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You are describing the old ALP.
The conclusion is obvious that this current morph is poison.
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Hypo, why would you say that? The ALP in my humble opinion campaigned on what used to be their values.
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Excellent excellent excellent summation of the LNP. They never do ‘get it’ do they? And to be fair, mostly they have a very narrow life experience.
But I have to agree with Di Natale- ‘We are at the end of the longest election campaign Australia has experienced in fifty years, and it has been a pretty uninspiring eight weeks from the old parties who have ignored some of the greatest issues of our time, including global warming.’
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An overpopulated planet is the driving issue of all global negatives.
Not even Di Natale said the word (not once) during the campaign.Of the top 12 issues on vote compass the environment was not even on the list.The closest it came was GBR and climate change.Both driven by the impacts of too many humans.
Deck chair shuffling continues.
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Unfortunately the media seem to allow the LNP to dictate the narrative. I agree Hypo, that the Greens (and LNP/ALP) need a population policy and without progressive leadership the discussion won’t happen.
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Population policy is racist to the core. The fact is there are billions of human beings on the planet and we do not get to decide to keep this part of the world just for us.
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Perfect. It is so much easier to blame everyone else than it is for them to think that their wretched policies are wrong.
It may have escaped the government’s notice, as it has the media, that nearly every poll for months has shown 50-50 or thereabouts.
The idea that a scare campaign changed any votes at all is a dubious proposition. But the Looters know all about scare campaigns; the myth is that they won Howard several elections, and we all know how the conservatives love their myths.
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Labor is responsible for the choice we don’t have.Their factional corruption has destroyed political stability, by refusing reform for over for a decade.
That’s why the conservatives won’t be buried this time around.I predict a rise of conservatism, before we get anywhere near the centre.Even with greens as a background option the major influence will be one driven by fear and convincing us that greed and bigotry is a normal reaction.
Too many ppl are letting the ALP off the hook.
The fact that Shorten and TBull have not given a bipartisan declaration that no govt will do a deal with Hanson during this term of govt shows their true colours.
This election result is a predicable poisoned chalice.
Drink if you dare.
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LNP blaming Labor?????
Get out!
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Hard to believe, isn’t it?
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All this blame stuff must be contagious.
I heard all of Labors problems were either Rudd or the greens?
Apparently the factions were out of the country?
I recall the the LNP lite >ALP blaming the greens for all their policy problems, not that long ago.In fact because of that,if you believe the spin,the ALP claim they will never do a deal with the greens EVER again.(Noted)
Funny thing is the LNP lite>Green blame game coincided with the sound of clattering ALP sphincters ,around the time when Abbott’s /Murdoch’s fear campaign began to get traction.Real Labor would have simply stared him down.Keating Hawke etc would have put Abbott back in his box.But then the LNP lite ALP shafted Rudd because he was not a faction puppet, and so they told him they would not support him on any carbon abatement policies.They left him stranded The rest is history, including the Gillard factional parachute takeover, her sovereignty ‘excisement’ manoeuvre, and the permanent establishment of long term offshore imprisonment of women/children.
Allocate blame within>The truth is Paul Howes owns most of the failures and policies of the Gillard era, and the hangovers ever since.But he crept away after dark,guilt free and got a job with the corporate parasites he was doing paper bag deals with all along, at the cost of his union membership.
Obviously the LNP own their own mess, which is why we should give them this senate.
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A few refs, Blame>LNP*LITE/ALP> Greens>Howes
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2013/s3694952.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Howes
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Yes, that’s all true. Current politicians are a massive disappointment
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LOL
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You know that Labor is a vacuum when Joyce says Hanson is on the nose.
Even if he is saying one sing and doing another, he has at least put the issue on the table.
Both PM aspirants should have done the same thing when it was known O.N was gaining substantial support.In fact before the election they should have ruled out any engagement with ‘it’.
As it is ,2 parasitic twins beg for our scraps, and Hanson will tease and taunt them at some point in time.
Sit Bill,Roll over……beg.
Gooboy..
Fetch! Mal,fetch!
Gooboy!
Whose a gooboy?!
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….saying one thing and doing another… ^
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Hypo, Hansen is an elected representative in a liberal democracy. They have to deal with her.
Instead of fighting Hanson, it would be far more useful to address the concerns of the people who voted for her, or at least show some interest in them. My understanding is that they feel they’ve been rendered voiceless. So offer them a better voice than Hanson.
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The world has many more voices of reason to offer.
But look at the rise of the right.
Hanson will fuel so much hate at home it will have a profound and permanent and possibly lethal outcome.Nutjobs have been waiting for this for 18 years,I have seen the steady increase in Swaztikas and hate messages.The Mosque attack in Perth was many across Australia.So far the cops and media have kept a lid on it.
Hanson was and is enabled by disillusioned voters, but she is validated when the two men who would be PM have not condemned her at every turn.Before during and after the election.How can they bag Trump and yet allow her home grown poison to amplify, and then expect us to take them seriously.
If labor had to kiss her arse to form govt they would lose their tongues.
Abbott and Howard have a lot to explain over Hanson and her harm to our social cohesion,and Labor has never had the balls to pin it on them.
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was >one of< many across Australia
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Hanson has about 9% of the Senate votes in Queensland, just 134,000 voters, which would be well short of a quota except in a Double Dissolution.
This is therefore Turnbull’s baby. And an ugly one it is.
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Hanson is a product of the LNP the 1st time around, but in the silence of the ALP on this they are 110% accomplices.
So in that regard what little sympathy I have left for faux Labor I would recommend that we let the LNP sort this temporary mess out.Or do you like the idea of the white supremacists engaging in a daily vigilante exercise on your behalf?
(Rhetorical)
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Hypo, we have no control over who wins government. The election is over. Only the counting remains. So how do we *let LNP sort this temporary mess out*?
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How?
Simple.
By NOT wishing Labor into the nest of vipers.Don’t encourage them to lay down with dogs.(sorry my canine brothers, it’s just a saying)
Let the Libs navigate this ship of fools, the rocks are calling(oh the irony).
Whoever forms will govt have a short season and some deep wounds coming.
Not to mention the massive collateral damage to the way we used to live in harmony.
Let those who enabled her deal with her.
And I still have not seen Shorten call her out.Loud, clear and on every channel.
But what would convince me we are a mature peaceful inclusive society is if Shorten and TBull both went on live TV to condemn her fully .
Given Brandis has already warmed his tongue in her ear,I’d say TBull is a walking dead man.
At this time the ALP does not have the moral capital or fortitude, to stand up to the far right, within or outside..
And it cannot (will not) do it under this ALP with this senate, with this RWNJ on opposite benches ,and with Murdoch in the crows nest.
This brand of Labor is as poll driven as the other LNP.
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The problem with Hanson today is that she is actually nowhere as vicious as the trash in the cartel.
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But then, who of us looks that nice the morning after, unshaven and in our underwear, false teeth in the shaving mug.?
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http://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/how-angry-man-vote-resurrected-pauline-hanson/news-story/d23c6a63859bd957ac95c57e3a984f33
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The us and them blame game applies as much to this version of factioanl ALP.
Just remember that.
“Election result reveals both parties have lost themselves in all-consuming narcissism”
‘…The Liberals and Labor alike are gripped by a feverish fratricide, even now. They seem to have learnt nothing….’
‘….It’s Labor and Liberal who seem intent on giving us instability and chaos, no matter the result….’
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016/election-result-reveals-both-parties-have-lost-themselves-in-an-allconsuming-narcissism-20160703-gpxbd3
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Well, both parties have certainly lost themselves.
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So far up themselves they have to shove a tooth brush up their arses to clean their teeth.
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LOL good one, Marilyn.
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Probably a painful thing trying to brush your teeth from the wrong end of your digestive system.
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I hope it really really hurts them
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whew !!! Slightly restored confidence in voting public. No mandate, no damm date.
It will be interesting watching the conservatives tear themselves apart, the fun has already begun…
This will be a short lived parliament, keep your banners ready and your pencils sharpened….
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They say China’s merit-based approach to leadership selection is actually pretty effective, at least when it’s corruption-free…
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Is there any political system that is corruption free?
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Announcement by Liberal Party:
“We wuz robbed! And if we haven’t been robbed, they tried! They lied and their lies were believed! Our lies ought to have been believed instead! Our lies were far better!”
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Announcement By New Labor [aka LNP Lite]
“We cannot be doing a thing wrong. We dodged reform,(twice) came second in two unlosable elections in a row.One was led by a misogynist pugilist ,pumpkin-damaged reptile hybrid opponent, and the other a born to rule temporary stand in, plopped in to re -enable the first.”
Yeah, I got the media release.
You need a better spin Dr.
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You need a better scriptwriter. 🙂
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Hard work making the dialogue fruitful ,where the only counter points from your input is dog eared material , on a continuous loop from the NSW right union song book.
We should introduce and excuse/ apology tax.
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The role of the media is interesting. Every major city newspaper plumped for the Coalition to win, even saying they deserved to win.
The voters deserve some credit for resisting this attempt at brainwashing.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016/federal-election-2016-daily-newspaper-editorials-unanimously-back-turnbull-coalition-20160630-gpw0df.html
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Yes, we do indeed DQ.
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“Hanson left school at 15 and married Walter Zagorski, a Polish refugee, at 16.”
Hasn’t she been attacking young mothers and refugees most of her adult life?
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Andrew Nikolic surely deserves some kind of prize for blaming his defeat on all those naughty people who dared disagree with him, like my pensioner parents in Launceston! This from the man who blocked, on Facebook, everyone who said anything contrary to his views. Having reduced the comments to a hand-picked cheer squad, it’s no wonder he was so surprised, haha! PS I’ve written an election blog post with no politicians. I think we all need a little break… https://heidiruckriegel.wordpress.com/2016/07/04/where-does-antony-green-go-between-elections/
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He’s a bad egg, that Nikolic. Very glad he’s gone.
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So’s Jamie Briggs hehe!
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It seems Shortens political foreplay with Hanson has already begun.
Not likely a harsh condemnation, but more likely long slow rhythmic caress.
Let the race hate enabling begin.The ‘party of the workers’ may well and truly overtaken the Liberal party.
Obviously this would mean Muslim union members will suddenly be out of favour, and will have to find shelter elsewher,.if Bill does(has done) a deal with the fish ‘mongrel’ .
Next time he goes to Sydney’s west the mobs won’t be so friendly.
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There goes the live export trade.
Animal welfare activists will be chuffed.
Farmers voting One Nation,not so much.
You can’t have your cake and eat it too Bill.
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/waleed-aly-asks-bill-shorten-whether-election-result-was-achieved-on-the-back-of-fraud/news-story/6ef210753b9ccdbe5ace7811938189c4
I have not seen the project,but wonder if Aly actually asked what deals were being considered.
Now there is no bottom in Labor’s barrel, I guess the depths of their depravity knows no bounds.
I am starting to change my mind now.If Shorten has softened up Hanson for ANY deal I hope he does form govt and Labor wear the inevitable outcomes.
Labor doing a deal with Hanson would be the exclamation on their ‘lost cause status’.
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No fear campaign, just telling it like it is, as to infrastructure cuts/tax cuts for the rich.
QA with Fraudenberg and Paul Kelly, demonstrated just how deeply ingrained the petulance and denial runs within the Coalition, as with Abetz on Latteline later over Nikolic getting booted.
Btw I hope JW is feeling ok, I suspect she must have had a genuinely nasty dose of that flu bug
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Howard should thank his god that Keating has softened with age.
“On Thursday evening, Mr Keating gave a scathing assessment of Mr Howard’s justification, saying it was a “stubborn and unctuous denial” that should be “held in contempt by every thinking Australian”.
“Could you imagine the woebetidings of Howard and the Liberal Party, had it been [Bob] Hawke or I who had committed Australia to such an un-mandated assault on another country?” Mr Keating said in a statement.
“We would never have heard the end of it. The Liberals would have been wringing their hands for decades.
“The incompetent management of Iraq following the invasion, fractured that country and with it, Syria and the region around it, casting millions adrift from their lives and homes. A sea of refugees. Yet Howard has no shame of it. And no responsibility.
>>>”Howard has visited on Australia the whole spectre of terrorism, through his craven and ill-judged support of the United States and its invasion.”<<>>”Now we live perpetually with the spectre of terrorism and racial strife, visited upon us by his prejudices and lack of judgement,” he said.<<<
"In the face of the Chilcot Report, John Howard should atone for his actions and those of his government. He should, at least, hang his head in shame."
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/paul-keating-says-john-howard-should-hang-his-head-in-shame-over-iraq-war-20160707-gq12fq.html
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There is snot a rock far enough away for Howard to crawl under.So let's pass the hat around and send him to The Hague, instead.1st class.
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I wish there was a snot rock to cover Howard he could crawl, perhaps he would suffocate.
$Trillions wasted, add productive capacity wasted on weaponry, that could have solved the problems of global poverty.
Then there is the death toll, all up running into the millions over time, for the benefit of a few cowboys in the USA and their lackeys.
Iraq, in particular, was so much about the hijacking of the USA and the world’s productive resources in pursuit of vainglory and greed of a tiny, myopic elite.
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The election is frustrating result for showing how the public, denied accurate information, must, like sheep retreating to timidity, make a timid voting decision of the sort we have just seen.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/07/journalism-or-propaganda-sbs-under-scrutiny-over-its-waltz-with-bashar-weekly-beast
Specifically, from this, I’ve had my attention captured by the para headlined “Final curtain after Drum battle” although it fits with the rest of the article.
Amanda Meade identifies the removal of the Drum on the pretext that the ABC should not do Opinion, that a section of ABC within its conservative news and current affairs department, involving one Gaven Morris had won out against those happy to carry op pieces from those outside the ABC itself?
I may be demonstrating a jaundiced view here, but I suggest the real reason apart from the funding cuts inflicted by the government mentioned in the article, that enable the cuts that ended the Drum, there is a mentality within the ABC bureaucracy that demands control of the narrative to the extent that alternative viewpoints must be excluded.
The TV Drum is notable for the intense effort of presenters to control a given narrative, a characteristic these days of most ABC news/ current affairs, but Ian Verrender at the website, ensured a big diversity of viewpoints as well as writing intelligent pol economics himself.
How does it apply to the election and to democracy in Australia?
If we see the election result as to do with a dumbed down public, how much of a preemptive strike against information is the strike against the Drum, if you feel that future election results can only deteriorate if less and less information is available to the public?
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The ABC has been under infiltration since Howard. Hardly surprising after decades we are watching a distinct bias in line with not just the conservative right but the far right.
The IPA, is not a right of centre lobby group but has its ideology firmly entrenched with the fascist part of the spectrum.
How to turn the ABC back into a more balanced, fact-based public broadcaster? I believe it will take years of a socially aware left wing government. And, for future safety, a neutered IPA.
https://newmatilda.com/2016/07/06/decades-of-conservative-pressure-on-the-abc-are-paying-off/
Increasing strength and influence from the fifth estate in the ensuing years are my hope.
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Thank you for the link, Diana. It is truly breathtaking just how perverted the media treatment of the campaign has been.
The Coalition narrative has been accepted and regurgitated as beyond dispute. And it will probably get worse, until the government fucks up enough that even the media will wake up.
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The media will wake up when Rupert dies and the IPA are somehow outed beyond redemption. Not holding my breath for either event.
PS
My name is Dianna
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“The Coalition narrative has been accepted and regurgitated as beyond dispute. And it will probably get worse, until the government fucks up enough that even the media will wake up.”
I don’t see a single spark of awareness or willingness to wake up to reality in any media or any community.This bullshit that the electorate has gone off the 2 big ones is delusional.Pppl just want a quicker response to their selfish,greedy ‘I want it all now’ attitude.
If there is any resistance ,it’s a single plankton in an ocean of apathy.
ppl expect petitions and twitter and face-book to cure it all.
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Oops ^ Twas I,
posted before filling my eml address in.(Pretty accustomed to sites asking when I don’t)
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Diannart, the NM article is priceless. Thanks.
I double blinked at the bias over the election, wondered if it was just me, or others noticed it too.
I see none of the half dozen comments on the subject have anything but contempt for this development.
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Looks like it might just BE Labor>
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/headaches-for-bill-shorten-as-labor-left-splits-nsw-right-rumbles-over-frontbench-20160721-gqay7q.html
Here we go again,further right,ignore reality,factional control, thugs control the agenda.
The LNP twin is restless.
Peace within? Learned our lessons?
Listened to the people?Focus on the people?
Yean nah?
Lost cause.
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Vicpol target right wing extremists.Spokesman says it is the first time in Australia’s history, and this is now a thing.
Reclaim Australia denies that they are reclaim Australia.
Paper shredder sales skyrocket.
Half of the federal Liberal Party builds underground bunker and goes into hiding.
Sen Story Bernardi,Pauline Handson and Sonia Cougar win gold medal in ‘rapid pant browning’ team sport.
Senator Lesionhorn says section 18c forbids him making a comment, on why people who ‘think like him’ should be held accountable for ‘going that extra mile’.
QLD, Whine Notion. Senatir Malcolm Knobhurts refused to comment ,other than to say Co2 was not a harmful gas, and he was raised on it, so he should know.
The PM,Tony Abbott is still maintaining his bowel of silence.
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